Dre sued for sample

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Forgot about pay: Dre owes $1.5M
A federal jury has ordered Dr. Dre pay $1.5 million in damages to a British record company for copyright infringement. Minder Music Ltd., sued Dre in 2000, claiming that "Let's Get High," one of the lesser-known tracks on Dre's 1999 multi-platinum album, 2001, used Fatback's 1980 song, "Backstrokin," without permission. Minder Music's original claim was for $3.5 million, but U.S. District Judge Consuelo B. Marshall recommended the lower amount in the judgment, which has yet to be signed. Dre's lawyer, Howard King, continues to contest the judgment and believes the case will be thrown out. "We're not done," King told Billboard. "We're only in the seventh inning." 2001 sold more than 9 million copies worldwide.


See, even the great producers sample.
 
aye nowt wrong with sampling dude, but you need to be cleverer than that, or just create all ur own stuff, **** losin $1.5 million just for a wee sample.

SM
 
Yeah, it's all about being clever with the sample like Primo( even though he seems to have lost his touch)I do think that sometimes the sample is too hot to change. There are some samples that if you alter it in the least, it wont be as funky. Like that Cold as Ice sample MOP used.
 
Someone in another post called DRE the G.O.A.T of production....


I Laughed.....:rolleyes:
 
I'll laugh with you. I'll give him this. He knows what sells.
 
"See, even the great producers sample."

any REAL hip hop producer samples...thats how this hip hop sh!t got started, thru sampling!!! reconize!!!!
 
I agree but there are some on this site that disagree. They say it must be original with their fruity loops drums that arent even hip hop.(There are a small few that can make hip hip hop with FL)
 
Is it that hard to Make Hip Hop with FL
I have FL and Sonar I think they can be used together
 
I dont use it. I'm just going by the tracks I hear and what others on this site have said. My boy has made hip hop with FL. It depends on the user.
 
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Yo, everybody in hip hop samples in one way shape form or fashion. You may not sample loops, or segments from old dusties, but if you use a MPC or SP1200 for drums, you're sampling. If you use a Triton, those sounds are samples. Even the Roots sample, and they're a full blown band. Dre samples, Timbaland samples, and this site's beloved Neptunes sample.
Real composers like Teddy Riley, sample heavily. Grammy award winning non-hip/hop musicaians like Fat Boy Slim sample.... heavy. Dre gettin sued for not clearing a sample is nothing extraordinary. Having to pay 1.5M for the use of that sample on a song that wasn't a single is crazy.

I can see how someone makes an argument for Dre beaing the G.O.A.T. Who else, other than Puffy has had the career that he's had? Who else, other than Puffy, and maybe Rza(briefly), changed the face of hiphop? We're not talking whether you like him as a beatmaker. Production is more than making beats. Productionwise, I can only think of a couple people competing with Dre for the title of G.O.A.T.
 
Many people accuse Hitler of murdering 6 million JEWS....

Did Hitler actually stand there and shoot 2 million Jews???...

Gas another 3.5 million???.....

Butcher, break bones and let them heal only to break them again....and torture the F#ck outta 500,000 other Jews?


No he didn't...but he was still "responsible" for every last one of those deaths???...


See that's how I feel about DRE. Most people say he's responsible for the West coast's sound...he gave orders....the engineer's followed...

But everyone knows he didn't stand there and hit every drum pad...push every fader....**** I wonder how many times this cat has ever picked up a midi cable in his entire life????

Just because you're responsible doesn't mean that you can take all the credit.

Therefore.....Hitler could never have murdered 6 million Jews on his own....

And Dre damn sure didn't orchestrate the entire West coast sound.....

Maybe it's a F#cked up comparison....

But you gotta see how it's relevant.
 
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IKEMURDAGood argument. You're probably right. I'm biased because his tracks aint grimy enough for me. Even though I have evolved with hip hop(I got R&B buttas) If you cant make a hot beat with hard drums, I cant consider you the greatest.
I'll go with my man Havoc from Mobb Deep. He's been consistent from day 1. Two of the hottest beats of all time are the Quiet Storm by Mobb Deep and Nas is like by primo. Dre's drums aint hitting like that. Dont sleep on my man EZ Elpee either.
 
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Dre's samplin is lazy its about time he got sued, whether he clears his samples or not its about time someone stopped his methods off samplin, for an example of his laziness listen to "The Edge" by David McCallum and compare it to "Forgot About Dre". He stands there with all that wax on the front of 2001 like he uses it all, then does such lazy samplin. I also heard Melle Mel does most of the work on his beats anyway, dunno if there is truth in that.

And as for Dre being the GOAT I can't agree with that. I'm not a fan of mainstream hip hop anyway, but Dre's beats tend to be very looped based, little variation and I dont like the drums in them. I prefer producers like DJ Shadow, RJD2, Sixtoo, DJ Mayonnaise, Aesop Rock and Alias a lot more... and goin into other genres people like Bill Laswell and if you can consdier him a producer - David Axlerod... but thats my view.
 
St£rling said:
He stands there with all that wax on the front of 2001 like he uses it all, then does such lazy samplin. I also heard Melle Mel does most of the work on his beats anyway, dunno if there is truth in that.
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Add Scott Storch to that list...well he's left DRE now, but all of that CUTESY PLUCK PLUCK PLINK ish that hear on Eminem albums and Forgot About Dre is all courtesy of Scott Storch.
 
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About fruity argument saying you cant make hip hop with it:
I dont use fruity, but let me say that is B.S. Any real skilled producer/beatmaker/prodcuer knows you can make any kind of music with any equipment. We should all know its not about the gear, its the peson behind it. Think about it... what is the MPC? An empty shell with some pad and a sequencer. You put the sounds in there to make the track? WHat is fruity? An empty shell (well it comes with sounds, but u dont have to use em) with virutal pads and a sequencer. As an added plus, it comes with some synths. You put the sounds in ther e to make the track. Any track made on MPC can be done on fruity also. ANY.


About dre getting sued. Boo hooo. He deservses it. A person with that much cloute, that much years in the game, that much knowlege, that much brand equity associated with his name... and he is not clearing samples? C'mon now. He is scamming the guy he sampled the track from. That dude should get a lot more just for dre trying to pull a slick one. Dre is a dope producer and an alright beat maker. But he needs to be smarter.
 
I think it's too hard for these cats to watch their hero take a fall.....

I thought Timbo was a GOD until I was introduced into the world of two-step and drum and bass.....

Now he's more like a false prophet. He's still me favorite of all time, but damn that **** actually haunted me for a while...
 
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Nah Sleepy if Forgto About Dre was produced by Scott Storch then he's the one with the lazy David McCallum sample... the whole track virtually is a sample of it... try n check it out, so its courtesy of David McCallum anyway :D
 
SleepTyght said:
I thought Timbo was a GOD until I was introduced into the world of two-step and drum and bass.....
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LMAO HAHAHA U are on the same page with me. Listen to some Photek and you will see where timbo got his style.
 
I Use a Trinity V3

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I have Crazy Beats from my board. Maybe hundreds. Maybe more. All Original. I think it depends on your Creativeness, Finger Controll, Ear, & Experience in the Digital World. My cuz Trevor Sparkxs Uses a Triton & MPC. His album is being printed now. His music is off tha meat rack. Your groove, style, & heart is what's hot.
 
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