DJM-600 or 500

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Can someone clear this out for me... What is the difference between DJM 600 and 500? Does it really worth the money to get 600?

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Off the top of my head, I think that the difference is that the 600 has a few more effects, a sampler, and a crossfader curve control. Check this site for all of the info. http://www.pioneerprodj.com/products/djmcompare.mv

Do you actually have to buy yourself a djm? IMO there are much better mixers in the price range.

-Gene
 
i'd agree, there are certainly better mixers.

considered the allen & heath xone series?

any of the xone series mixers smack down the DJM's :P
 
600 vs. 500

i was considering both of these mixers and ended up going with the 600. the effects are pretty cool on both, but the 500 doesn't have the filter which is one of the few i actually occasionally use. the sampler also pushed me towards the 600, but in reality, i don't use it. if you are planning on buying new and are really set on the pioneers, i would go with the 600 since the 500 new is almost as much. if you are going to buy used, the 500 are generally much less expensive than the 600. they are both really great mixers for the right application. if you want to do any heavy crossfader user, steer clear of both of these. honestly, if i was to do it over again, i'd be buying an xone 62 from David Lee which is why i'm saving my pennies :D
jeff h
 
well, here I go again and I'm gonna disagree with the board. First, a brief rundown of the "DJM Differences"

DJM500-No Sampler and fewer BPM-linked effects than the 600; not sure but I believe all the outputs are the same on both models

DJM600-8-second sampler, greater array of effects; also, the 600 has buttons to automatically calculate 1/2,3/4,1/1,2/1,and4/1 beats to link effects, in addition to the Parameter 1 (time) control knob. The 500 makes you make time calculations yourself. Some may call this cheating, I call it efficient use of time. This helps alot, believe me.

DJM3000-Has all the effects of the DJM600, minus the sampler; has three "effect mix" functions that apply a "roll", "zip", or "echo" effect to the crossfader when mixing. When properly applied, these effects can greatly enhance a set. 3000 is a 19" rack-mount mixer, and in my opinion makes more efficient use of space than the previous mixers.

I know many on this forum are Pio bashers and A&H worshippers. I'm not dogging A&H, just saying that Pio mixers are no slouches. I'm EXTREMELY satisfied with my 3000; it's my fourth mixer, but the first one where I feel I got EVERY PENNY'S worth out of it. Some may say the effects are "gimmicks", but if properly applied, they can GREATLY enhance any set. Besides; from Florida to Texas up to New York, I can say I've seen one of the above three mixers in almost ALL of the niteclubs & raves I've frequented, regardless of music genre. They ARE a high quality mixer, and built as tough as brick sh!thouses. The only people I know who have broken them are those who either abuse or neglect them.

Oh well, just my $.02 on my usual divergent opinion on the boards!!!!
 
pio's

Sik, i'm not saying that you're calling me one, but i'm anything but a pioneer basher. :p i love my 600, and i feel that it was worth the money i spent. it delivers everything it says it does without any glitches. one of the many reasons for buying is (as you mentioned) this mixer is an industry standard. i thought i would, but just don't use all the bells and whistles on this mixer which is why i'm interested in the A&H. somehow i convinced myself that i needed the sampler and the effects. the actual mixer portion of the 600 is excellent, but i'd rather drop what i don't use in favor of a much higher end simple mixer. if anything, the A&H will be an addition to my system, not a replacement for the 600..
 
i wonder, how many of you guys that praise a&h actually own or use them? i used to think highly of them until i actually had to use one at a residency. i hated the thing as did all the other dj's and promoters in town. within 2 months of the xone touching down, the retailer had a ton cheap 2nd hand xone's. nobody wanted them at all. sure they have great sound. shame about the counter intuitive layout, and initial poor build quality. but the layout = die die die die die.

today i wouldnt buy an xone, djm500 or 600. id be taking pssl up on their $799 pmc55 deal. the pmc55 is hands down my favourite mixer in the world. when i bought mine i payed one and half times that price and i got a hell of a buy at the time. check them out. has the features, layout, and sound quality. cant go past it. every club and party promoter in my town uses these as their main front of house (except when an international requests something else)
 
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i wonder, how many of you guys that praise a&h actually own or use them? i used to think highly of them until i actually had to use one at a residency. i hated the thing as did all the other dj's and promoters in town. within 2 months of the xone touching down, the retailer had a ton cheap 2nd hand xone's. nobody wanted them at all. sure they have great sound. shame about the counter intuitive layout, and initial poor build quality. but the layout = die die die die die.

today i wouldnt buy an xone, djm500 or 600. id be taking pssl up on their $799 pmc55 deal. the pmc55 is hands down my favourite mixer in the world. when i bought mine i payed one and half times that price and i got a hell of a buy at the time. check them out. has the features, layout, and sound quality. cant go past it. every club and party promoter in my town uses these as their main front of house (except when an international requests something else)
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you are probably the ONLY voice of disdain for this mixer. i personally own a 464 and love the damn thing. it's EQ alone is reason enough to buy it. all EQ controls are placed in the most musical places, once you figure out the sharp curve that it's got on the sub zero range.

i can maybe understand your dislike for this mixer if you walked up to it and had never used it before, it's got a little bit of a learning curve, yet still, not bad. as always, we're all entitled to our opinions and you've got yours.

on another note, but in the same vein. the DJM isn't a bad mixer at all IMO. i'd like to add one to my setup for the heck of it. it's got some great effects and it's build quality isn't too shabby. i don't like the overall feel of the knobs and such, but that's part of it. i don't think it's worth the $1000 prictag that it so proudly wears. i'd pay about 600 or so for it, maybe 700. blah blah blah. DJM vs. Xone conversation again..


Toxa, to reply to your post, do your homework. take a look at your options for that much money. there are a lot of mixers out there that can do a lot of cool things. like the PMC-37, or the PMC-55..both great mixers that i'd like to get my hands on as well.

this is all a big game, you buy what suits your needs vs. what you can afford.
 
Undercurrent - i must confess that i have never used and A&H in person. i'm going on others favorable reviews like i did with my 600. the 600 does everything that anyone with any merit claimed it would, so i feel i can trust the reviews of those folks on the board (reason why i didn't pony up for an X9). i don't doubt the pmc55 is fantastic. my previous mixer was a pmc17a which is by no stretch in the class of the 55, but is still a great mixer. out of curiosity, what do you find counter-intuitive about the layout of the xone62? other than it is somewhat cramped due to the 2 extra channels, 4 band eq and filter that layout seems on par with the 55 and the 600.

jeff h
 
i've never thought that it was cramped. sure as hell no more cramped than any of the vestax stuff, or pioneer gear.

one thing i don't like about the vestax offerings is that they don't have VU's on the individual channels. they're not 100% necessary, no, but they're kinda nice to have. i espically like them because it means i don't have to listen when i'm cuing up a track, i can watch the track as i'm cuing and then put on the cans when i'm know i'm on the first downbeat
 
I think that the pmc55 has them. I think that it will be replaced sometime next year. The pssl price is probably an indication. I've never used the xone but I don't see how the layout is cramped either. :confused: I don't have huge fingers though... :D I did use the 600 though and I don't like how it feels. I'm all for using protype consoles for mixing, I really like that feel and that's what the xone seems to offer.

-Gene
 
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its way too cramped, and the cue system is downright annoying. top right hand side and down by the faders also. paulie is also with me on the layout thing. i dont want to have to invest time getting used to a mixer. mixers shouldnt need time invested in them to not get annoyed at them. to be honest i when i went to buy my mixer i sat down and said "ok its got nice eq and all but does that justify being uncomfortable?" especially when im the kind of guy who doesnt use eq much anymore. the vestax has sound quality that i find comparable, and a much more comfortable layout. so i went with that. sure if you're spending that much to buy it. you're not going to dislike it. but as someone who at one stage played on half a dozen different mixers every week. i couldnt stand the thing. and all my other gigging brothers felt the same. oh and the filter clicks = die also. plus with the discount pssl is offering i really dont think its possible to justify a 62 over what is possibly one of the best mixers ever.
 
Those are good points undercurrent. I'm looking into getting a cd deck to add to my 1200s and I want to get a mixer that has at least 3 faders. What would you suggest besides the Vestax. The empath? Keep in mind that I only mix... and I like having a 4 band eq and a top mounted headphone jack (besides the obvious - sound quality). I'm not discounting the xone though, I still think it's a very solid mixer, that seems to be worth every penny.

-Gene
 
gene

ecler smac-30??

i'm not sure if that's what you're looking for but it'd fit the the 3 channel discription with a nice price....
 
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hmm mayber you're right but, I want to make sure that I'm not downgrading the quality of the sound and build that I currently have with the mp22z... damn I wish they added another fader to the thing, I really do like it a lot.

-Gene
 
oh yeah....

i forgot you have a rane....

well thiers always the phone/line in switch :D
 
You're right of course but, I want to use samples and loops from the cd player while playing records. I'd at least like to have the option of mixing 3 sources. We'll see, maybe I'll just stick with the one I have. There's really nothing else I don't like about it (no effects send though!).

-Gene
 
the effects send/return on the ecler is a sore spot with me....

why they didn't make 100% orginal signal at one extreme and 100%fx signal instead of 100%orginal AND 100%fx is beyond me.... that's what i'm using my 3rd channel for....

on a bright note though compared to the empath a you could easily save for a smac-30 and keep the mp22z..
 
i like the mp44. djm600. pmc55. roland dj2000. ive owned all except the rane. pioneer i find to be the worst of the bunch but theyre good value for money. tascam x9 post upgrade was nice too but i dont think id buy one coz there seems to be some on going issues with them. im also not adverse to the new pmc37 i would really like to get a lot more time on one of those. theyre moving in the right direction for creative dj's (a page or two down i did a little write up on one)
 
This thread suddenly became useful in all its off-topic golry. :D I'll stick with my mp22z until I get the cmx-3000 and there might be an mp44 in my future. ;) The funny thing is I was moving away from 19in units until I remembered that the cmx would fit w/them perfectly. Thanks for the help guys.

-Gene
 
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