Breakbeat Basslines

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Im looking for gear used to produce basslines and rolling basslines similar to those used in breakbeat tracks from producers like Deekline and Wizard, Blim, Breakfastaz, General Midi, Freestylers etc..

Im inspired by rough bass from genre's like Speed Garage, Jungle, UK Breaks. Just trying to get a grasp on what gear to look at that can give me the sound Im looking for. Here are a few track titles with the sounds Im looking for:

Deekline And Wizard - All Your Love
Cut & Run - Outta Space
General Midi - Turn It Loud
Freestylers - Midnight
Breakfastaz - Greenlight 2004
 
Try looking into the Korg Electribe series, they have some pretty sweet basslines. Definitely have some of the sounds you are describing.
 
I have used heard the ea1, but Im wondering if this is what these guys are using. I have also played with the microkorg and learned how to roll a bassline in fruityloops. But I still think there is something out there Im missing for that sick grinding rolling bassline like deekline uses on outta space.

Damn I wish I could have 30 seconds with deekline. Im very picky.
 
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me too. and im at the same point as you. help US!!! lol.
 
They use different stuff. A lot of synths are capeable of those sounds but it's the way you process and progam those sounds.

The basic idea behind that type of bass is detuned saw or pwm oscilators, filtering and distortion. Then the sound is sampled loaded into a sampler as two paralel instruments. One is lowpassed and the other is hipassed and processed further.

You could just sample the breakbeatbass preset from Gmedia Imposcar and start from there.

Check out Dogsonacid.com and Nuskoolbreaks.co.uk. Those are two communities dedictaed to jungle and breakbeat music where you will easily find answers about specific production tricks and approaches that are used in these musical styles.
 
A few nice dirty analog synths include:
The Roland Sh-101, Mc-02, sh-2, and Juno 106.
Korg Mono/poly, MS-10, MS-20.
Yamaha-CS-10, CS-15 and CS-01.
A lot of great breaks use the Roland SH-101 as it has a really good saw wave and sub oscillator, but I like the Korg Mono/poly too, it is so filthy and has so many knobs and effects plus 4 oscillators!
Some will got he way of the softsynth, but few will take the road to enlightenment.
 
honestly, im over at dogs on acid mostly, as i produce dnb. I have heard hardware-based reece's, and software-based ones as well, and im hard pressed to tell the difference. Truth be told, you can make great, innovative, lush music with softsynths. I have both hardware and software, and i find that i use the software more tbh.

If you want that rolling bassline sound, your going to have to take that sampled bass sound peejunk was telling you about and make a melody/loop with it, and run ****loads of filters through it, and automate em so you get those strange warbling bass sounds (for dnb anyway). Notch pass filters help alot.

another thing, nameless, i have read some of your comments and posts. Your ****ing useless d00d. These people want to come here to learn, not be told they have to go out and buy some hardware that may be unattainable for them at this time, and your busy bashing em down with all this talk about how their softsynths suck. Seriously, its this highbrow elitist posturing that is bringing down the vibe in the dance music scene, and people like you need to be taken to a quiet place, shot, hung, burned, and buried with your hardware (dont worry, we'll leave it out in the rain first). Honestly, this is why i like The Grid in DOA better, morons like you either dont post there, or if they do they get verbally abused so that the'll never do it again.

Try being supportive for a change n00b.
 
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Korg Mono/poly too, it is so filthy and has so many knobs and effects plus 4 oscillators!
Click to expand...

Do you know how many effects a Mono/Poly has?

as many as a juno 106
 
Nice to see we have a beaming sunshine of light and hope joining the FP forum. What an awesome 1st comment Misk, keep it up.
Simply, I am responding to a question posted by a FP member on what I would recommend/advise to make an awesome breakbeat bassline. I have stated many wicked synths, truly awesome bass monsters, inexpensive and worthy of praise mad machines.
What response do I get?
HEY MAN, ITS THE DIGITAL ERA MAN, NOBODAY CAN AFFORDS A REAL SYNTH, YOU BETTER SHUP UP.
Well go **** yourself!

AS for the Juno 106 (I've owned 5) Well, I love the 106 with all my heart. I bought one on ebay for $150US. However, the Korg Mono/poly is so completely different that there is no comparisn. The effects on the Korg are much more advanced, with dedicated knobs and switches to increase Freq Mod amounts, X-mods, etc..So don't compare them, because that's retarded.

It seems that new digital inventions are popping-up everyday to make our lives easier. We own DVD players, Palm Pilots, Cell phones, etc. There is no doubt that the evolution of new technology has been extremely beneficial to many people. So, does the constant improvement on technology mean that we are always receiving a better product? The answer to this question depends on the person you ask. I believe that certain computers technologies have improved our ability to communicate, create and share information. I also believe that certain digital technologies have created a lack of warmth in our world.

The problem with the latest technology is that it may be replacing an existing technology that is working effectively. This new technology may in fact be inferior to the older technology and may still replace it in the name of “progress.”

Music corporations, have decided to adopt the leading-edge digital technology despite criticism from the end users. Even music stores have complained about the lack of diversity in their products. It seems that all their products are starting to resemble one another and that they sound similar due to their digital algorithms.

In the future, most musicians will not debate analog vs. digital. Of course, digital will replace analog, sort of 2 steps forward 3 steps back.
 
what I'd suggest doing is learn a bit of synthesis- learn to identify the waveshape, how the sound is filtered, lfo'ed, and then affected...

before you go buying a synth or gear, read up on it- realize there's a good chance you'd be able to do this with waveforms and whatever sampler you happen to be using...

shortcuts -> shortcomings


-Lodger
 
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