Big Major label sound

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HOW CAN I GET MY SOUND AS BIG AS THE MAJOR LABELS USING CUBASE AND TASCAM US 428 ..I HAVE A TRITON PRO.. IS IT POSSIBLE? WHY DO EVERY MAJOR LABEL"S SOUND REALLY COME OUT AT HIGHER LEVELS THAN HOME STUDIO? WHAT DO THEY USE IN MASTERING?
 
hey, just get a record deal and you can have their sound ... or, if u don't wanna be screwed by the majors and just wanna be a big monor playa, turn your caps off and get yo as$ onto a finaliser prog like "T-Racks" for Mac or the TC Native equivalent "the finisher" or something like that.
 
Really!!!

Hey, who did you get a contract offer from>... I recently got an offer from one in Hollywood and they were talkin no moolah.... Anyways.... but finaliser.. where can i get that from? or the other one you were talkin about... is it software? Would have to have macintosh not windows? You think its better to go independent huh? But you get the publicity you need with the other one (MAJOR) even though they spend a lot of your money you haven't even made yet for promotion... but anyway.. need to know about this finalizer.. really got me interested... peace out boo
drea
 
yeah, u gotta love those "no moolah" people ... hehe, nah, if they ain't gonna give you money why give them your music? i reckon get a good manager but first u gotta get a good sound. So u r on windows eh .. well, i use both, but i find T-Racks is the only finaliser software i use, and that is only on the Mac platform, sorry to p1ss on your parade. BUT you CAN get a finaliser from some company like "TC Native" or something. Anyway, if u have a friend who has a mac, just go round to their place with your cd, and a copy of T-Racks, and do the do on it, and then burn off a copy of your newly enhancd track. But it takes thyme and practice to get good results with T-Racks, is a subtle yet powerful program - as one would imagine a finaliser piece of software would be. ;)
I think that's about all i can help ya with baX
cheers
 
AIGHT

I WILL CHECk INTO FINALISER AND SEE WHAT DA DEALLY IS I GUESS I HAVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY DAM!!! BUT ANYWAY THANKX AND PEACE OUT DUDE....
BAX
 
A compressor/limiter/gate/eq all rolled into one.

there you go.
You really have no fuken idea about capitals and internet posting do you? Oh well...i don't really care. It's just a strange vibe man. But it's your vibe and everyone is entitled to their own vibe. Maybe you make really aggressive techno .. or maybe you need to make more of it :D
 
the problem is that home/semi pro studios run at -10dBv and professional studio level is +4dBu and this is why there is a huge difference in volume of tracks. this is about a difference of 10dB which equates to quite a large discrepancy. its nothing to do with just overdriveing all the levels or blasting your volumes.
i know behringer make a rack mount mastering unit called and ultramizer pro which ups the floor of your recording to make up for this (a little atleast) it also has a compressor etc built in. doesnt really compensate but helps alot. the only real way is just to go to pro levels.
 
I don't know that the 4db and 10db make a difence. one every thing is recorded at its optimal db you go into maxing ad so on...and a good mix with a small amount of EQing and listening on many devises should reveal a good loud mix but probly with low sound and lots of dynamics... its an art to work compresion,gain, maximising, normalizing, and eq to get a good clear sound..in fact its best to hire someone and pay out the $500-$1000 to get it done. OR just make the best mix you can.. your record company will have it mastered for you..and will get it plently loud as thats part of there job until you big enough to request your owen help in the studio on there time... but most of us arn't pink floyed yet..and some of use don't want be.




Taos
 
THIS MIGHT BE TRUE

PROBABLY HTAT IS THE BEST THING.. I GUESS IF YOU PRODUCE IT , WRITE IT, ENGINEER IT, YOU GOTTA LET SOMEONE ELSE DO SUMPTIN, RIGHT? BUT I FIGURED SOME HOME STUDIOS MASTER IT THERE AZ WELL...OR INCREASE THE VOLUME TO MAJOR LABEL SOUND.. EVEN THOUGH THE BIG STUDIOS HAVE HIS BIGAZZ 250,000 EXTEERNAL GEAR THAT THEY PUT EACH WAVE THROUGH..INTERESTING THOUGHT... THANKX..:monkey: :
 
You might be right.. big companies have a 250,000 machine they run each wave through to make bigger.. so you may have a point.. thankx.. is till would like to know how they do it though.. guess audio engineering school is the best thing huh...:monkey:
 
if loud is what your after you can do this... record it well... edit it weell and compress the #$%& out of it. then normalize... need louder? repeate process... I am more out to get good quality and good dynamics to my mixes then getting them loud.


taos


BTW, how old are you?
 
Loud isn't da only thing

Definitely quality is very important... That comes easy if you know what you're doing.. But even wit quality if your volume doesnt' come out as big.. you still got a big problem...when you buy someone's Cd in da store and it comes out at you, then you buy an independent and it comes out lower than that.. that can really really hurt you..I'm lookin for sumptin to maximize the bigness of my sound..Quality's already dere...Peace out baby ...24 if you dint know...::D
 
right on, I agree, its got to be loud...to compete.


Its all about learning to use compresion.... compress your basslines and sample them and use them that way...do the same with the beats. do individual compresion on the sounds that need it(meaning , they need there dynamics reduced). Us eq befor the compresion in your effex chain....that way if you have to boost(which is rare its usually about reducing) it will not boost over 0db and distort. If the compresore is at the end you can keep that from happening. and like I said , dont forget to normalize your track afterwards.

Taos

www.djtaos.cjb.net
 
thankx dude

I definitely will try dat..a dn tell you what i come up wit..thanksxxx:)
 
all those replies and everyone skirted the issue-

it is simple- you are dealing with digital audio here, and it cannot be overdriven without horrible clipping. if you normalize a wave, it can make your peak at ZERO (the max) but that is just the peak, and any old transient will set the max for the entire mix. while compression may help a bit, most transients slip in under 20 ms, or whatever setting you use, so you really need a LIMITER. This will ultimately raise the "average" (actually RMS) of your mix to commercial levels. I prefer the Waves L1 which you can download a demo at www.waves.com. Basically is raises the mix while squashing your peaks- and if done judiciously, you'll have no artifacts. That is why commercial CDs sound louder- they have been mastered. It has nothing to do with
the problem is that home/semi pro studios run at -10dBv and professional studio level is +4dBu and this is why there is a huge difference in volume of tracks. this is about a difference of 10dB which equates to quite a large discrepancy. its nothing to do with just overdriveing all the levels or blasting your volumes.
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We all, pros and ams, have only 16 bits to work with! A pro mastering house easily charges $100/hr for mastering- so it is quite an art... not something just anyone can learn in a weekend and put out a 'broadcast ready' master.
 
WOW, WhAT DO I CHOOSE?

i'm gettin advice in different directions.. i guess i would have to like i said go to audio engineering school tor eally learn post production.. but i thought i could get the same sound with a tascam us 428 and cubase with the sonic loudness maximizer plug in.. i guess not.. i did try the compression and i really couldn't tell a difference.. i was using the cubase compression plug ins... i would probably just need to take it to a professional mastering studio and let those guys do it...i just hate getting that low end sound.. that big sound is the only way independent cd's can compete.. when it comes out low it really sounds cheap, even when you're working with the best keyboard on the market the triton, and one of the newest innovative digital mixers, the Tascam us 438.. thankx a lot and i hope someone in here is right...peace out:cry:
 
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