behringer ub1202 vs mackie 1202-vlz

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hello fp peeps, i currently have the behringer ub1202 mixer (a tiny $85 investment, so im not worried about tossing this or maybe even selling it if i can) and was wondering if its worth it to upgrade to the mackie 1202-vlz. could i get pros and cons of each and so forth.
 
Mackie is 100,000 times better, anything behringer is garbage. Better sound quality, durability.
 
hell yeah -- upgrade as fast as you can and throw the Behringer mixer out of your window! The pres are really noisy & crappy (among many other thigs)
 
Behringer mixers are great. I have a UB1222FX pro and its great. I had 2 mackies in the past and the behringers perform just as well in all departments. The only thing better in the mackies is that u can play soccer with them and they will still work :D Behringer looks more fragile. Great Sound Though! Don't be fooled by the bad comentarys on behringer mixers cause it's just a thing that "looks cool" saying. :P
 
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Behringer mixers are great. I have a UB1222FX pro and its great. I had 2 mackies in the past and the behringers perform just as well in all departments...
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Ditto on what you said. I have the ub1002 teddy, and I think it does it's job very well for the price and I've had no problems at all with it. Also it would help if you let us know what different applications you need the mixer for?
 
These cats saying they have good Behringer mixers either A: don't have experience with any other brands, or B: got really, really, REALLY, lucky and somehow got a good one.

I have a Behringer UB2442FX-PRO and it's the biggest piece of crap I've ever worked with. The pre-amps on it are so noisy it's almost impossible to get any decent sound out of it. Then, to top it all off, it burned out after about 2 years! I think there might still be 1 or 2 channels that actually still work on it, but I bought it brand new around 2 years ago. It should still be working like new. Total piece of crap. I will NEVER buy another piece of Behringer gear.
 
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To all the behringer haters, don't listen to them. Read real reviews on behringer mixers vs. mackies and you'll find they both rate the same. Go to zzounds.com and read user reviews of both, google behringer mixer reviews, look around. There are a lot of haters on behringer here, but they truly do make decent equipment, and for the prices they charge, you can't go wrong. I've used both and find that the behringers perform just as well as mackies. Listen to the pros. Search online.
 
LOL, check this out:



That's mine right there. I actually OWN one, and I'm telling you it's a piece of crap. I'm not just some hater. I spent the money to buy one brand new. Take my word for it, it sucks. Not only is the noise from the pre-amps unbearable, but it burned out after about 2 years. Notice only 1 cable plugged into it in that pic. It's because none of the other channels work anymore.
 
Behringer used to be good until they started being made in china or whatever. The original german units were actually quite good.
 
This is one area where you don't want to save money unless you have no choice. I'd pick the Mackie over a Behringer just based on durability. Add to that, the far better pre-amps and it's a wrap. Now, that's not to say all Behringers are bad, the higher end ones are quite nice but the "Walmart Specials" are a waste of money.
 
I bought a Mackie 1642-VLZ Pro two years ago. Had it hooked up in my home studio only, no gigging, no moving it around.

Lost a channel after 5 months. The people at the store where I bought were very cool about it, and gave me a new unit instead of repairing the first one. 15 months later, I lose signal in one of the stereo channels. That's TWO different units that can't even handle 2 years of home studio use. On the Mackie forums, it turns out this is a common flaw in the 1642/1604 series.

Since my warranty has now expired, repairs comes down to $300. A Behringer 1642 knockoff, the UB2442 FX Pro, costs about $400. That's less than HALF of what I shelled out for the 1642, and with repairs, it'll become less than a THIRD! Back in the day, you got sturdy, built-like-a-tank mixers when going Mackie, but these days I just can't justify paying top-dollar for a product with this kind of fail-rate.

I would've gone with a Behringer knockoff instead. If it breaks down, you can still buy a second one, and have saved money. Paying more than twice the cash for inferior durability just isn't good business.
 
I just purchased the behringer ub1622fx-pro. i hooked it up last night and i noticed that the inputs were "bleeding"
thru to the control room/headphones output while all the faders were off. is this normal for mixers or what? excuse my ignorance on this subject as this was my first mixer purchase. I only paid $180 for it at guitar center.

if this is a problem that should not be happening, can anyone recommend a better mixer with the same amount of inputs and built-in fx around the same price range?
 
Yes, that's a problem. No, it's not supposed to do that.

I wish I had a suggestion for you with the same amount of inputs around the same price. I'm looking for one to replace my UB2442FX-PRO too. If anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears...
 
I've had the Eurorack UB1204FX-Pro for 3 years. I use one channel on it to record and its in the same, good, condition that I bought it in. I record at least once a week (minimum). Behringer makes good mixers. Mackie does as well. The only thing I can agree with the Behringer haters is that they dont have the best preamp in it, but not bad enough that your gonna throw it out. You can still get wicked results as long as you know what your doing.

Either way, Mackie or Behringer, you should still be running your mic thru a preamp before it hits the mixer.

Behringer makes good mixers. Maybe the best investment for you would be to pick up a decent preamp.

The guys that have bleeding problems or their channels are messing on them are either really unlucky or not working with their stuff right (no offense).

I have worked with Mackies and Behringers in the past. Dont beleave the hype by anyone that bashes on Behringer. Most people bash on their products without using/owning them (Salty, you do own a Behringer mixer so I will take your opinion into consideration, theres just alot of people that bash on stuff they've never worked with)

Alot of people that Ive met that have complained about their gear is just cause their quite abusive with it (pulling out/putting in cables when its on, screwing with faders and dials when you dont need to, banging it around)

Id buy a good preamp and see how it works. Even it it dosent work well and your Behringer craps out on you, you have a good preamp you can use for your Mackie.
 
ok- behringer is hit and miss... which when it comes to dependability makes it a miss... they used to be pretty descent, until they started mass production, they now have major quality control issues, if you find one that is good, it will be good to you. If you run into problems, don't even bother calling them- they will give you the run around, just bring it back to where you bought it from, get your money back and put a yamaha or mackie on layaway if you can't afford to buy one right away. The only thing that behringer has put out of good quality lately is the new bcr series controllers and interfaces- they rock- and the phone tech support was awesome when I called them about issues reguarding firmware problems I was having- I think they are trying to get rid of their bad rep now- they guy called me back within an hour of my call to see if I got my sh*t straightened out, and the next day called one more time and emailed me twice! I found out that the problem was on my side and my software, they were about to actualy have their engineering department send me some beta firmware ahead of release schedule just to see if I could fix my problem... this was really suprising. Just stay away from the mixers- they suck. I've had two of the same model, and one had a dead channel within a week, the replacement was fine and sounded great. Then I bought an FOH mixer by them against my better judgement- more dead channels- this time I opened it up myself and found faulty soldering and fixed it my self, and it worked solid afterwards, but I've sold it since, and sworn against behringer mixers- if you are going to make an investment, it's worth the money and patients of saving to get something that you know works, after all, the mixer and monitors are almost the most important thing in your setup- thats where every thing ends up, the most critical part. We aren't behringer haters- WE JUST KNOW BETTER!
 
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Id buy a good preamp and see how it works. Even it it dosent work well and your Behringer craps out on you, you have a good preamp you can use for your Mackie.
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why would anybody invest in a good preamp without investing in a descent mixer to begin with? A good preamp is $$$. at least 500 for a descent vocal pre. If you are going to spend that type of money on a preamp- then do yourself the favor of not sending it through noisy signal paths and just drop $200-300 on something descent like the yamaha mg series- or a used older mackie.... f*ckin christ man.
 
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why would anybody invest in a good preamp without investing in a descent mixer to begin with?
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Because with a good preamp you can go directly into your soundcard - but with a board without pres you can't do anything.

Many pros record 'directly into the box' (bypassing the mixer but going straight from a high-end pre into the DAW). Just imagine how much 'crap' (= electronics) there is in a mixer, without really doing anything except degrading the signal!
 
I was hoping you would say that.... that's kinda the point I was making, I would just pray that enough people would be smart enough not to pass a nice preamp into a mucky behringer signal- don't get me wrong- they aren't as bad as people make them out to be, I've used them alot- especialy when I first started making music and producing, I've put out some pretty clean stuff with them- but they are noisy... I just won't do it personaly- unless it was for demos or a home or project studio- or was in a bind and needed a quick bandaid... i agree with you 100% I'm just saying if you are getting to the point where you need a nice pre, you should at least have a nice mixer first, thats all. I'm with you on recording straight to the card with stuff like vocals or really dynamic instruments.
 
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Hey what do you all think of the alesis multimix line
I'm thinking of getting the new 16 channel one with firewire
 
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