Akai MPC2000xl vs. Akai MPC3000

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I've been doing quite a bit of research on both of these machines, and I still haven't decided which one to get. I want to use an MPC mainly as a sampling drum machine, not as a sequencer. I plan on using Logic Audio for sequencing. I have read a lot of comments about the 3000 being better, but I'm still not sure. What's y'all's opinion?

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it depends on what kind of music you make... if you're a hip hop producer, you should not use Logic for sequencing because the sequencer of MPC series are much more better for that kind of music. You have to know that the main difference between 2000xl and 3000 is the sequencer. The one in the MPC 3000 is a little bit better. But if you make all your sequences in Logic and you don't use the 2000xl or 3000 sequencer, both are useless for you. You should look for a Akai S-series sampler, a yamaha A-series sampler . Theses samplers are great and have no built-in sequencers. That's the best for software sequencers.
 
Maybe this question should be for the "Sequencers" board, but I'm going to ask it anyway. Why is the MPC3000's sequencer better than the 2000xl's?

Oh, yeah. I've decided to use the MPC to sequence instead of a software sequencer.
 
REGARDLESS OF WHAT U HAVE DECIDED. IVE JUST SEEN THE MPC4000 :eek:


PLEASE MUMMY BUY ME AN MPC4000:cry:


ILL BE GOOD :angel:


IT LOOKS DANGEROUS PPL, VERY DANGEROUS!!


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exoseven said:
it depends on what kind of music you make... if you're a hip hop producer, you should not use Logic for sequencing because the sequencer of MPC series are much more better for that kind of music. You have to know that the main difference between 2000xl and 3000 is the sequencer. The one in the MPC 3000 is a little bit better. But if you make all your sequences in Logic and you don't use the 2000xl or 3000 sequencer, both are useless for you. You should look for a Akai S-series sampler, a yamaha A-series sampler . Theses samplers are great and have no built-in sequencers. That's the best for software sequencers.
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No offense but you don't really know what you're talking about. First of all, Logic's sequencer works just fine for urban music whether its rap, r&b, whatever. Secondly, there is a huge difference between the sequencers in the MPC3000 and MPC2000. Yes, the 3000's is superior. But thats not the only major difference. Ever wonder why Akai built the 3000 before the 2000? It's because the 3000 uses the S-3000 sample engine. To bring down the cost of the MPC to make it more affordable, they substituted the S-3000 sample engine with the S-2000's. Hence, the MPC2000 was born. A cheaper, lesser version of the 3000. And by the, -no-, using Logic Audio doesn't make an MPC useless.

Please try to research this stuff before you post about it.
 
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No offense but you don't really know what you're talking about. First of all, Logic's sequencer works just fine for urban music whether its rap, r&b, whatever. Secondly, there is a huge difference between the sequencers in the MPC3000 and MPC2000. Yes, the 3000's is superior. But thats not the only major difference. Ever wonder why Akai built the 3000 before the 2000? It's because the 3000 uses the S-3000 sample engine. To bring down the cost of the MPC to make it more affordable, they substituted the S-3000 sample engine with the S-2000's. Hence, the MPC2000 was born. A cheaper, lesser version of the 3000. And by the, -no-, using Logic Audio doesn't make an MPC useless.

Please try to research this stuff before you post about it.
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Excuse-me but the MPC's sequencer is the best for hip hop and r&b, ask any real hip hop producer out there. The timing on the MPC is huh, unbeattable. Of course Logic is a great sequencer for techno, drum & bass, jungle, etc... but if you wanna make hip hop, you need a MPC. I know what I'm talking about. Ask yourself what Dr. DRE and DJ Premier use and tell me what you think. They don't use Logic or Cubase. For the sampler, the difference between the S-2000 and the S-3000 are not so big. Both are 16bit and 44,1kHz and has 32 meg of RAM. Maybe the 3000 is better for editing sounds but you will agree with me that if you plan to you a software sequencer like logic, you should use a S-Series sampler instead of a MPC. A MPC is built to be used with its sequencer. You can try to sequence it with a software but the pads and the sequencer on the MPC become useless. In that situation the MPC 2000 becomes a S-2000. In fact, you are using the S-2000 engine only.
 
just because some hip hop producers use a certain machine for making their music, that doesn't mean
a) it's the best
or
b) you need it to make hip hop

you need a sequencer and a sampler (well, not even that, but if that's how you want to make your music, then you do)
any ones will work fine... you just need to decide which one will work best for YOU

hip hop is a style of music, not the gear used to make it
 
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You got damn right, MPC is, I think, the best machine for hip hop, I mean the way I do it. I tried software sequencers but I wasn't satisfied. Maybe other people will love softwares for hip hop but not me.
 
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Excuse-me but the MPC's sequencer is the best for hip hop and r&b, ask any real hip hop producer out there. The timing on the MPC is huh, unbeattable. Of course Logic is a great sequencer for techno, drum & bass, jungle, etc... but if you wanna make hip hop, you need a MPC. I know what I'm talking about. Ask yourself what Dr. DRE and DJ Premier use and tell me what you think. They don't use Logic or Cubase. For the sampler, the difference between the S-2000 and the S-3000 are not so big. Both are 16bit and 44,1kHz and has 32 meg of RAM. Maybe the 3000 is better for editing sounds but you will agree with me that if you plan to you a software sequencer like logic, you should use a S-Series sampler instead of a MPC. A MPC is built to be used with its sequencer. You can try to sequence it with a software but the pads and the sequencer on the MPC become useless. In that situation the MPC 2000 becomes a S-2000. In fact, you are using the S-2000 engine only.
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First of all, it doesn't matter what Dr. Dre or Premier uses. And you are wrong anyway, Dre has used Logic Audio on several projects. Secondly, the differences between the MPC 3000 & 2000 ARE significant and not just little minor items as I have already explained in a previous post. I suggest you go re-read that.

I have been working as a professional musician/recording engineer for half my life (which is probably longer than you've been alive). I know this gear inside out. I've been using this gear in the studio for many years. Doing real music, not just being some kid sitting in my bedroom thinking I'm a producer all of a sudden because I bought an MPC (which I have a feeling describes you). I really hope you understand that arguing with people who use this gear every day and work professionally in the music business isn't the best thing to do if you don't want to be embarassed.

Now, the only thing I will agree on is that *several* rap/r&b makers prefer the MPC but do you even know why? You were somewhat correct when you said timing. It's actually because of the swing algorithm, which of course relates to timing. Maybe next time you can actually come to the table with something a little more interesting than just repeating something you heard somewhere else.

One last thing... Using an external sequencer with an MPC is NOT the same as using an S-2000. That is a ridiculous statement and if you don't even know why I say that, it's obviously you don't have much experience with the S-series samplers and MPC's.
 
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OK, how would you use an MPC with an external sequencer. You're right, never had a S-series sampler' and I don't know much about it. But if you use a MPC 2000 just for its sampler fonctions, in my opinion, your are using it as a S-2000-like sampler with not all fonctions . Maybe you are "professionnal" producer but I think you will agree with me that using a MPC just for its sampler fonctions is not the optimal and most effective way of using it. That's what I tryed to expain to "Stone Loner". I think that you will get better results with its own sequencer. Of course, the MPC sequencer is less accurate than logic or cubase. But if you plan to use only a sofware sequencer, what would buy: a S-2000 or a MPC 2000??? (if you assume that both are the same price). I think the S-2000 is a better choice for software sequencer. Am I right ???? you "professionnal" producer......
 
Just because the MPC 2000 series uses the sample engine from the S-2000 samplers, doesnt mean the MPC is an S-2000. The MPC is not meant to be used in the same manor as the S-series samplers. If you want to sample drums & percussion, the MPC is better for that. It's more suited for it. If you want to sample loops, synths, and sounds like that.. Go with the S-series.
 
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I agree, basically a MPC is a drum machine and that's one of the reason why it is good for hip hop.
 
YO! I don't know much about it so i won't talk much...all i know is that alot of profesional producers use MPC3000....so i think this 1 is better...but i got a quastion for u guys!!! were can i buy MPC3000??? i was looking online but nobody has it! what hapend? they don't sell it nomore? well if u know were i can buy it please tell me!!!:) PEACE
 
i wanna first start buy saying that i am a professional producer and i do make music in my bedroom. but it dont matter where you make or whut you used as long as it's tight. the thing i love about the mpc which ever model is that it has no sounds out the box... so you make it whut you want. its tottaly a creative tool. give me ne mpc and ill make a dope track. ive heard that the mpc 3K sounds better from alot of ppl.. i feel they both sound dope runnig through a lucid or apogee coverters... you cant front on that.
 
The general concensous is that the all mpc's exept the new 4000 should have the exact same feel to theyre sequencers.They all have the exact same 96ppq.
Akai copied the blueprint that Roger linn had for the 60,and 3000.Some peole think the reason they hear a slight differance in the feel of the sequencer is due to the somewhat warmer sound the 60,and 3000 have.
The theory I HEARD was that a warm kick has a longer delay than a colder one,and it makes the swing seem at first to be more live.
So just eq your samples upon input for more warmth?
But really an mpc is an mpc,and they are all capable of eqaully dope results.You will NOT be a better beatmaker with a 3000 than you will with a 2000.Thats for real.
The 3000 is however more sturdy,and could last longer if you gigged alot.
But seriously if you wanna something just for drums get a sp12 turbo.Its way supierior to the mpc for drum sounds.
 
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