trjeam
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yeah i feel what you're saying. i've been networking myself with a few indie companies. but it just seems that when it comes to money companies are reluctant to spend on music.
yeah i feel what you're saying. i've been networking myself with a few indie companies. but it just seems that when it comes to money companies are reluctant to spend on music.
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panny_fresh
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i like:
flying lotus (john coltranes nephew)
DJ Shadow
Justice
RJD2
DJ Krush
Dan the Automater
As you can see, these cats sound like me.
DivShare File - mud face_chauncey.mp3
And they are known for having an innovative style. Selling a beat for 3g's is not hard if you know the right people and emulate the sound of now. But it is extremely hard to create a distinct style that is not generic. Plus I just don't just respect music based on success. Actually that is a turn off. Music that is successful is usually liked by an audience of mainstream people that really don't know music theory. I like esoteric obscure music. Individualistic groundbreaking stuff. The whole successful thing is actually a turn off for me. Besides, who want to listen to music everyone likes. That is boring.
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Vdub
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I know you probably hear "network" a lot and that's like typing cars in google a bunch of ish fall under that catagory.
All i can say is mingle with the people, and broaden your abilities. Be able to make what you like, what joe like, ashley, Tanaka, Muhammad, Cortez, and Little foot,
The memo is make music that's versatile, be able to do music for all kinds of people. Look up people and hit them up like "yo i like what you do, if you're ever looking for something i'll be more than happy to work with you"
Sometimes you may even work for free for some people build a relationship and you know they have friends who have friends and if you make them sound good you'll get a referral. And those the people you charge.
This business is all about making relationships, and i know people all over this world. And if you want to be successful that's how you have to be, open minded enough to where you have to local rapper down the street on your stuff as well as Tanaka from Japan spitting to your ish.
Network bro
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DJ_ARCH
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ay bruh, this track is hotttttt!!!! lets battle lol
Vdub
New member
Well that's where we're not the same and the main reason as to why you wouldn't like what i do. I use to think that way but i had to wake up. I can't be successful in the magnitude so I stuck with the route of working with the mainstream audience. And i love it.
I've met and worked with all kinds of people from country to pop rock to hip hop and R&B and even ethnic crazy stuff. Everything and everyone i work with is a learning experience for me because everyone is different.
For this artist i may be able to put together some crazy deep bass hard synth 3rd world sounding experimental stuff, but for the other artist they may want something that sounds like their fav artist, or something the label wants which is what the audience want which is mainstream type stuff.
When making music and wanting your bills to be paid you have to do things simple enough for a 3 yr old, and hot enough to where someone in their 30's can appreciate it.
My focus is money i don't want to work so i'm going down the path that gets me to that destination. I don't want to be a mail man, fireman, cashier, clerk, engineer, army sgnt, or none of that, put me in front of a board with my writer and ill make hits that people like.
Here's something crazy and weird i did for a guy in Africa
http://www.showcaseyourmusic.com/Vdub
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PHH
Member
Im curious bout 2 things:
Where did that arp synth come from?
Do you run the ozone plugin on all your tracks, or just for this one?
Where did that arp synth come from?
Do you run the ozone plugin on all your tracks, or just for this one?
Vdub
New member
Vdub
New member
People have always been amazed by my mixing on my tracks, ozone is the key ingredient to everything. I've made a specific preset that pretty much works for all of my tracks so i just load up that preset before i start my first instrument. And then i make the track and tweak everything from there. Ozone is primarily like my mixing and mastering process all in one.. I'm eq'ing, setting levels, widening, setting my harmonics, using slite reverb for a big in your face feel, and some compression to keep everything in tact.
The arp synth came from z3ta
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panny_fresh
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See, you should not be in an artform for the sake of the money. If you want money, get a good education like i did. Music is about passion. Do you have passion for the money or for the music? IF you have passion for the music all that you are talking about paying bills will not matter. What would matter is that you are making what you like. You have said numerous times, it is not about what you like. That is the problem. Anybody, and I mean, anybody can goto guitartab.com and copy and past popular chord progressions on piano roll. To get money all you have to do is go to craiglists and acquire business. I have done that and yes, it work easily. However, if you are not making music you enjoy than what you are working is 9-5 that at the end of the day you will hate. Learn about creating art for art's sake then talk to me.
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Coop.
New member
Panny stfu dude lol.
Vdub dope track
Vdub dope track
Aykey
The mother****in truth
No offence son but your music sounds nothing like, dj shadow, rjd2 or justice...who ever said this, was lying to you.
But that's a good thing...cuz something would go hella wrong if any random dude could sound like a RJD2 or the guys from justice.
I don't really get your statement with the linked beat...you're talking about how good it is to be innovative and unique like RJ2D, etc...but yet you want to sound like them?
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Vdub
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Maybe you missed the point of what i was saying.. Music is what i do money is what i make totally different. I make money doing what i love. I don't want to do anything else but this. I'm signed to 2 companies, starting my own company and have a manager that's working her ass off taking a chance on me. I've lost a lot from relationships to family even jobs trying to do music and it's finally paying off.
When all else fails my music don't. The artist is nothing without the gift but the gift is nothing with out work and that's all that i've been investing. I don't go and spend money on the top notch gear and all this other extra unnecessary stuff.
I understand that I'm doing what i love and i love what i do, but i also understand that i have mouths to feed that's not even here yet, i have a wife that wants the best out of life, and a mother who has taken care of me now it's my turn to take care of her, and a house that needs lights water and gas running with a t.v. that needs comcast cable, and in order to stay in contact with people i need the internet along with a cell so money is definitely my main focus right now. and that doesn't mean i don't still do music because i love it, it just means that i put things in the right perspective and I'm now being smart about what i do and how i do it.
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panny_fresh
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I Said I WANTED TO SOUND LIKE THEM?
I make lo-fidelity hip-hop...which they ALL do as well. Hence, my music falling in that genre.
Way to go puting words in my mouth.
Also, there is this band called soundtribe. i was signed to their label specifically because they wanted a illbient lo-fi artist.
Also...i sound more like el-p than anyone else.
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panny_fresh
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This is what I am addressing.
This statement was made completely out of a lack of integrity for what you do. I wholeheartedly disagree with it.
Again....if you want money, you get an education because the music industry ain't and will never be garunteed.
Hell....you ever heard the phrase " here today gone today"
that is the music industry.
This statement was made completely out of a lack of integrity for what you do. I wholeheartedly disagree with it.
Again....if you want money, you get an education because the music industry ain't and will never be garunteed.
Hell....you ever heard the phrase " here today gone today"
that is the music industry.
as20gp
Ghoul Gang
tight work fam
lol at chauncey.. nigga been a troll on FP since as long as i can remember
lol at chauncey.. nigga been a troll on FP since as long as i can remember
Aykey
The mother****in truth
I Said I WANTED TO SOUND LIKE THEM?
I make lo-fidelity hip-hop...which they ALL do as well. Hence, my music falling in that genre.
Way to go puting words in my mouth.
Also, there is this band called soundtribe. i was signed to their label specifically because they wanted a illbient lo-fi artist.
Also...i sound more like el-p than anyone else.
If you link one of your tracks with a statement like ''As you can see, these cats sound like me.''...you can get the feeling that you want to be somehow associated with them or maybe sound like them...i don't know.
Anyways...i agree with what you said about todays hip hop such as the neptunes not being that innovative if you compare them to real unique cats like Rjd2 or justice or whoever. But you can't really compare them because of their differences (RJD2, dj shadow, etc. doing mainly instrumentals and non-rap beats).
So what's left is just your own opinion and i know for a fact, that other ppl won't listen to you if you state something like ''todays hip hop suck, go listen to some real stuff like Rjd2, CL, dj shadow, etc. etc.'' I tried this myself more than once...trust me...it won't work. I would agree of course because pretty much everything sucks compared to a legend like RJD2...but that's just my personal opinion.
I heard that new flo rida jump track on MTV some minutes ago...it's sad to see that this **** is considered hip hop nowadays...but that's just the way it is. You're running against a big wall if you're trying to inspire ppl to listen to some real hip hop...especially on boards like FP, which are full of little gucci manes, rick ross' and soulja boys.
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aslaton1
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Good work vdub I see you on some next level type tracks; versatile and a fresh sound.
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chicitybeats
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I just want to know how many keys your keyboard is
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panny_fresh
New member
Cool...but RJD2's music spawns from portishead and massive attack and even shadow. for sake of articulation you music make a reference. I am not trying to sound like rjd2 but yes I do want to be associated with them as oppose to neptunes and swiss beats.
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Le'roi D. Rage
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Good job Vdub, the track is tight...But why are you even entertaining Panny_Fresh? Haha dude is an attention whore...
Just remember...
Just remember...
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