Also just because theirs a MV forum does not mean you will get support just as quick as an Akai machine. For some people support is everything. So I'll have to agree with the fact you will get much better support on an Akai machine. But that's really up to the consumer if they want it to base their decision.
Customer support from the company directly and an active user base talking about gear are two different things. And I still think you're wrong, there will be answers on both forums for sure. A lot of newbies over at the MPCforums are actually being ignored more than on the MV nation site. Although that forum certainly seems to have a bad reputation on being a bit rougher. That makes sense though when people post insane comments on how the 'timing is off' and that kind of nonsense without even owning an MV.
You seem to be stuck in believing the popularity or size of the community of a forum defines how fast or well answers are answered, but to be honest in most cases the manual is where the real info is at, as explained before. Your argument still doesn't make much sense to me.
The support from Akai (Akai Updated) might not be the greatest
...so why would we care for a forum that might respond a bit faster again if Akai doesn't fix bugs that shouldn't have been in there since product launch? I'm not anti-Akai, nor pro-Roland, but you still sound like you're defending Akai like nothing happened with the MPC5000.
I mean their is a reason why MPC's are more popular, that's because it cant be replicated but just imitated. The MPC has a certain trademark feel like no other.
Hah, now that's plain bs.
First of all, there is no trademark feel on MPCs, that's a silly myth. I own and use many Akai MPCs and other brand machines and there's really nothing on there that makes it more easy to produce a certain type of beat. Most if not all machines can literally make all kinds of beats, and if you can play properly, it will sound more natural or more of a swing type beat.
The swing on an MPC that many think you get with its quantize is also the very same you can get on an MV or any other beat machine. In fact, I dare to challenge you in how the MV can do a lot more when it comes to quantize and tweaking the feel of a beat down to the details. If you think the MV for some odd reason produces only robotic beats, you're very very wrong.
As an owner of both MPCs and MVs I can assure you most of it is actually the result of how a user plays the pads. There is no 'make swing beat' switch on the MPC and there is no 'make swing beat' switch on the MV either. Quantize fixes timing errors or changes it, it doesn't add pad play or make it natural! It usually does the opposite. Maximum quantize means robotic timings.
In my obviously much more objective opinion it has everything to do with how many people know a brand and much less whether the MPC truly swings better compared to an MV. Don't forget quantize is basically by definition something that will take the human factor out of a beat if overused or used in a bad way.
MPC 5000 is like a MPC 2500 with some minor additions but heres the catch the source code for that is private and an outside programmer like JJ is not able to put out firmwares for that machine.
You really don't know what the **** you're talking about. Non of the source codes from operating systems of Akai samplers were ever made public by Akai. JJOS was made by a third party, actually a group of Japanese programmers that had little to do with Akai.
Akai even tried to benefit from the JJOS hype by spreading false rumors of JJOS programmers having worked on the MPC5000, or even that the MPC5000 ran on 'JJOS'. It couldn't be further from the truth and Akai is making much progress on fixing all the bugs.
But thats not all, the most important part is both an MPC and MV are just hardware at the end of the day its how it was programmed that counts. One of the most coolest part of JJOS is that they actually listen to you.
They (who are 'they' anyway? the jjos programmers? hahaha, right) don't listen to you, they mostly do as they please, but they do add things many people are interested in. They like feedback, but in no way do they 'do what you want'.
When it comes to hardware machines like this, the technological limitations really define a machine. The MV blows the mpc2500 out of the water when it comes to it's specs, that's just a fact.