McLovin Beatz
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What ya'll think?
What ya'll think?
Finally got the chance to watch the video (just got off work)
I think Ev hit the answer with his initial comment. Any instrument in existence wasn't always just there and at some point those were also not considered real instruments, over time they became accepted as instruments because they do take talent to make a sound that is pleasing and have to be played as an instrument.
A lot of grey area to this argument but I still contend that an MPC is as much an instrument as any other, you tune it by cutting your sample and honing it to a usable sound that adds to the overall effect.
Doctor Who theme music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaThe original 1963 recording of the Doctor Who theme music is widely regarded as a significant and innovative piece of electronic music, recorded well before the availability of commercial synthesisers. Delia Derbyshire (assisted by Dick Mills) of the BBC Radiophonic Workshop used musique concrète techniques to realise a score written by composer Ron Grainer. Each note was individually created by cutting, splicing, speeding up and slowing down segments of analogue tape containing recordings of a single plucked string, white noise, and the simple harmonic waveforms of test-tone oscillators which were used for calibrating equipment and rooms, not creating music. The main, pulsing bassline rhythm was created from a recording of a single plucked string, played over and over again in different patterns created by splicing copies of the sound, with different pitches and notes achieved by playing the sample in different speeds. The swooping melody and lower bassline layer were created by manually adjusting the pitch of oscillator banks to a carefully timed pattern. The non-swooping parts of the melody were created by playing a keyboard attached to the oscillator banks. The rhythmic hissing sounds, "bubbles" and "clouds", were created by cutting tape recordings of filtered white noise.[1]
Once each sound had been created, it was modified. Some sounds were created at all the required pitches direct from the oscillators, others had to be repitched later by adjusting the tape playback speed and re-recording the sound onto another tape player. This process continued until every sound was available at all the required pitches. To create dynamics, the notes were re-recorded at slightly different levels.
Each individual note was then trimmed to length by cutting the tape, and stuck together in the right order. This was done for each "line" in the music – the main plucked bass, the bass slides (an organ-like tone emphasising the grace notes), the hisses, the swoops, the melody, a second melody line (a high organ-like tone used for emphasis), and the bubbles and clouds. Most of these individual bits of tape making up lines of music, complete with edits every inch, still survive.
This done, the music had to be "mixed". There were no multitrack tape machines, so rudimentary multitrack techniques were invented: each length of tape was placed on a separate tape machine and all the machines were started simultaneously and the outputs mixed together. If the machines didn't stay in sync, they started again, maybe cutting tapes slightly here and there to help. In fact, a number of "submixes" were made to ease the process – a combined bass track, combined melody track, bubble track, and hisses.
seriously this is about as stupid a question as you can have.
i didn't even bother listening to the video but this question is so ****ing subjective. i've listened to some amazing stuff that's just feedback.
if you're making music you're a musician, even if what you are making isn't something that the majority of people would consider music.
what about merbow?
Merzbow - Minus Zero - YouTube
how about a self generative patch on a buchla music easel?
Easel Krell Patch i - YouTube
neither of those are to everyone's taste but both are music.
I am not a musician. I am a beatmaker.
The problem with this definition is that there are forms of music that reject these boundaries, such as avant-guarde jazz.Music-The art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre.
There was not any harmony, melody or rhythm in any one of the videos you posted. They were just sounds being played back through a device. The sounds being made from me typing on the keyboard does not equate to music, just cause I feel it does.
The problem with this definition is that there are forms of music that reject these boundaries, such as avant-guarde jazz.
some people might call this random noise, not really described by that definition you cited.
I can record me typing on the keyboard as a form of percussion.
Music-The art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre.
There was not any harmony, melody or rhythm in any one of the videos you posted. They were just sounds being played back through a device. The sounds being made from me typing on the keyboard does not equate to music, just cause I feel it does.
Music-The art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre.
There was not any harmony, melody or rhythm in any one of the videos you posted. They were just sounds being played back through a device. The sounds being made from me typing on the keyboard does not equate to music, just cause I feel it does.