A good Beat
- Thread starter Jay-mir
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good is a matter of style and preference, but listen to the music you think has a good beat and disect it. Try to figure out what gives it that swing. Try playing on a drumset and you'll pick up a lot. in hip hop and most of rock and pop, the core of the beat is the kick and the snare (a clap can be used to fill the function of the snare, though thats been real overused recently due to people copying kanye) cymbals and hats basically keep time in hip hop, in rock, they are used for fills and in transitions a lot and often hit every beat or on all eighth notes or sumn. just play with that stuff for a while in Fruityloops or on a drumset for a while, cuz it takes time to pick it up. if you're looking for more advanced stuff, look at programming the drums to the front or the back of the beat and using ghost notes and pay attention to programming the velocity of individual hits. good drum sounds are also really important. a good producer spends time building a library of sounds to work with (sampling, diggin ya know). basically you gotta work at it to get it, but if it makes you feel good, makes your head nod, whatever, then its good.
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geedubbee
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Jay-mir said:
It consists of a good quantity of those qualities you like, while containing none, or at worst, very little, of those you do not.
Seriously, there are some things that will probably make a beat annoying to most people, but even Yoko Ono sold records.
Feel the beat, let it take you where it wants to go. Hang on, and it'll be a nice ride.
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well most people will say comlexity is good same with rappers and there lyrics evryone thinks if its complex its good,fuk that I think simplicity is whats good simple but not boring
Frost-RAVEN
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I would agree with the simple thought. A good beat may be simple but contain some sort of twist that catches you off gaurd. Hip Hop beats are pretty simple yet powerfuly effective. And think about trance beats, how simple are they? Really simple, and yet they have the power to rock the dancefloor. Things being simple isn't always bad.
Complex beats are nice to, I like that beat in the Jay Z track "Jigga What?"
It's like at 70 bpm but kinda double time, very interesting twist I say.
Complex beats are nice to, I like that beat in the Jay Z track "Jigga What?"
It's like at 70 bpm but kinda double time, very interesting twist I say.
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yup thats the prob with alot of comercial shyt these days its all to similar for example I totaly thought Dre produced Disco Inferno he didn't tho I donno if thats a good example but everyones after the same producers that all sound alike so theres no versitily in todays albums
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lol yeah man
Jay-mir said:
Here is exactly how you make a good beet... the hottest around:
BEET SALAD
1 pound fresh beets
For dressing:
1/2 cup heavy cream
1 teaspoon Dijon mustard
2 lemons
1 teaspoon sugar
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon white pepper, ground
3 tablespoons hot cayenne pepper (to make it extra HOT)
Wash beets and cook in boiling water until tender. Cool, peel and slice.
Blend remaining ingredients and combine with beets.
Allow to marinate an hour before serving
...and if you want your beets to be hotter, just add more cayenne peppers.
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5am
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Like ppl have already mentioned. It depends on the style of music for a start, but there are always the foundational sounds which are mostly present. The kick being the most obvious and then the snare/clap following this. I found good claps can be created or other clicky sounds (good in urban) when a few samples which sound similar but are different but are layered together and places ever so slightly out of time. Panning these individual sound can create a wider space and make them stand out in the track more.
Modernbeats do extremely good sample cd's for this kind of thing and I would definitely recomend them.
Use hi hats and shakers etc to create the swing/rhythm. Use occassional samples (ones which occur less often and are not classed as rythmical) to make it more interesting so that it doesn't sound to repetitive and so that the listener hears something subtle but new. Finally make variations in the placement of the riffs you create. Make carefully placed breaks avery few bars or so. Do things like reverse sections at particular moments or even just once in the whole song.
Solstice
Modernbeats do extremely good sample cd's for this kind of thing and I would definitely recomend them.
Use hi hats and shakers etc to create the swing/rhythm. Use occassional samples (ones which occur less often and are not classed as rythmical) to make it more interesting so that it doesn't sound to repetitive and so that the listener hears something subtle but new. Finally make variations in the placement of the riffs you create. Make carefully placed breaks avery few bars or so. Do things like reverse sections at particular moments or even just once in the whole song.
Solstice
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na_feu
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im gonna stray from the pack on this one...
A good beat is simply originality. Its doing something no one has ever done before and making people like it. Notice the word *making*...
Every legendary track in history was, at its time, a breakthrough. It was something that no one ever heard before and it was so strikingly different that it cought everyones attention and people ran with it. It works kinda like a fashion trend...like Louis Vouttoun (sp?) Jordans or the Solja Rags stuff from the 90's...etc etc..
Look at all the great beats of the past 10 years and remember your initial response to it when you first heard it.
You might not have even liked it at first, because its not what you're used to. Its so out of the ordinary that you say to yourself "ok, he went too far this time".
Timbaland came out with "are u that somebody" for Aalyiah and changed the whole production scene 180 degrees. In 1997 that beat was as HOT as it gets...but in 2005, it aint worth a dime. He made "dirt off your shoulder" and now a year later, a beat like that from any other producer, aint worth a dime. Its all about being NEW.
See what Im sayin?...Britney Spears had "Toxic" and pop music is suddenly not bland anymore...
Its all about doing something new at the right time.
....thought of another more recent one..
Pharrell & Snoop "drop it like its hot"
When i first heard it i was like.."damn this is weird as F***..."...then I played it again to try to figure it out...then I played it again...then I was still like.."damn this is crazy"...
Its not about having prefect bass intune with your drums its about YOU telling the masses :
THIS is whats hot, and THIS is what you will jam now (biatch).
A good beat is simply originality. Its doing something no one has ever done before and making people like it. Notice the word *making*...
Every legendary track in history was, at its time, a breakthrough. It was something that no one ever heard before and it was so strikingly different that it cought everyones attention and people ran with it. It works kinda like a fashion trend...like Louis Vouttoun (sp?) Jordans or the Solja Rags stuff from the 90's...etc etc..
Look at all the great beats of the past 10 years and remember your initial response to it when you first heard it.
You might not have even liked it at first, because its not what you're used to. Its so out of the ordinary that you say to yourself "ok, he went too far this time".
Timbaland came out with "are u that somebody" for Aalyiah and changed the whole production scene 180 degrees. In 1997 that beat was as HOT as it gets...but in 2005, it aint worth a dime. He made "dirt off your shoulder" and now a year later, a beat like that from any other producer, aint worth a dime. Its all about being NEW.
See what Im sayin?...Britney Spears had "Toxic" and pop music is suddenly not bland anymore...
Its all about doing something new at the right time.
....thought of another more recent one..
Pharrell & Snoop "drop it like its hot"
When i first heard it i was like.."damn this is weird as F***..."...then I played it again to try to figure it out...then I played it again...then I was still like.."damn this is crazy"...
Its not about having prefect bass intune with your drums its about YOU telling the masses :
THIS is whats hot, and THIS is what you will jam now (biatch).
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particlecreature
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allot of people get what is a good sounding beat up with what is technically a good beat, again depends on preference
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expansion
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Come on man, you should know the answer to that yourself.
And yeah, Dr. Dre did do the drums on that Disco Inferno, Bang Out and C Styles did the other ****.
And yeah, Dr. Dre did do the drums on that Disco Inferno, Bang Out and C Styles did the other ****.
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Drockalipz
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na_feu said:
LOL! Classic!
na_feu said:
Its also being familiar at the same time. Truely avant garde producers that do entirely new things are rarely if ever embraced by the masses. You have to be "intuned" with the past, when trying to make a step foward. This means what samples you use, what beat style your basis is and what style/genre your creating in. You have to do something new yes!, but it can't be totatly different becuase you won't know the audince to push it to.