Never beleived in the Illuminati up until now.

deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup said:
We aren't gonna touch that. Rainbow theories are too real. We don't wanna blow anyone's mind here.
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I understand that but I won't sit here and do nothing to warn my people about what our government is doing to our water supply. I mean I know someone else will take care of the problem, but I make sure I talk about to everyone. I even post at www .weneedtostandupasanationandaskwhatthehellisgoingon. com I'm pretty sure they are putting gasoline in to the ground, ive seen rainbows form in gasoline spills.
 
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MadTiger3000 said:
I say it's NOT a fake.

Show me any link to ANY info except for your mouth that says it is. I won't bother with dozens of links saying it exists, because you already said it exists. haha.

People with more knowledge and certifications in archaeology, some of whom are fuggin' atheists, say it is real. No one has proven it's false.

The object is currently located in the Israel Museum, befitting an archaeological artifact of a country.
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it is "the only known artifact bearing Pontius Pilate’s name"

guess why? that's point number one.
second, there exist NO DETAILS REGARDING HIS EXISTENCE/LIFE BEFORE AND AFTER HIS APPOINTMENT to Judea.

and now, since you claim I make up stuff and don't provide sources.............wait, where are yours? :cheers:

you are barking up the wrong tree and you doing it using accusations and then YOU don't provide any info. and me "making up evidence before". again, a lie, the same thing you accuse me of. :rolleyes:

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lets examine your post again:

"There is indirect archaeological that Jesus of Nazareth existed.

They found a stone inscription talking about Pontius Pilate. The ONLY reference in history to him is in the Biblical account.

Research it.

Nothing personal, since not many know it."

seriously man. we could've started a VERY interesting discussion and I'd have provided you with links, book titles, etc...

but you just killed your own point. n/p though. I didn't expect you to use logic. "indirect evidence" for a Son of a God is enough evidence for YOU anyway.

here is your "indirect evidence" of Jesus of Nazareth's existence.

jesus12.jpg


that's it. that's ALL THERE is. :cheers:
 
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MysterE said:
Let me remind everyone that JLP is in fact, the devil...and sh|t
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why would you expose me in a thread full of Bible thumping "philosophers & scientists"???

now they gonna try to kill me with bible verses. :cry:

burn in hell MysterE.........and no, you can't have the room next to all the pornstars down there. lol
 
Read my posts, and read JLP's posts on this subject.

Who seems to be straightforward, looking for truth, and who seems to be backpedaling?

You were caught out. Either prove your claim, or sit back. There is no door number three.

(Just so that it is out there: I don't expect JLP to prove his point, because there isn't anything out there. There isn't. That's why I am so disappointed in him. I agree with a lot of his arguing on this site on various subjects, but he screwed the pooch. I expected him to not respond, because there IS NOTHING OUT THERE. Google, and you will see for yourself. When he responded with the above, and still no link, but trying to dissect my words, it made me even more disappointed. *sigh*)

Google result of "Pontius Pilate inscription fake" shows that nothing is listed where it is claimed to be fake.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source...n+fake&btnG=Google+Search&fp=8a71b2a78aefb31b

What's so funny is the above also are MY sources. Ironic, huh?
 
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MadTiger3000 said:
Who seems to be straightforward, looking for truth, and who seems to be backpedaling?
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dude, how does ME claiming something about Jesus have anything to do with you "accepting" or agreeing to my other posts on the forum?
you Christians are strange folks.

YOU do your research: find a document showing us (outside of the Bible, written centuries after this "historical fact") that a Pontius Pilate prosecuted a Jesus dude. none exist. prove otherwise.

show me the accounts of Pontius Pilate's life (he was the FREAKING PRAEFACT OF A WHOLE REGION!!!) before and after his appointment to Judea.

so you basically insult me and my intelligence (that's ok with me, we can disagree on topics) by stating that there is A SINGLE BROKEN STONE in a Museum in Israel, which proves your Jesus story right?
there exists (I hate to repeat myself, because I know you are intelligent enough to "get it") no info regarding this guy. same goes for Jesus. understood?

do you want me to show you other forgeries created by the church to prove other things? (oh, btw, read Corinthians 1:15 when you have time to)

here, lets have a discussion - these are the methods of the church:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donation_of_Constantine

I can tell you what happened. Someone found an old stone and engraved the name of Pilatus on it. is this a conspiracy theory?
other than that, you will have to show me how STONES can be dated, other than by dating them by the OBJECTS SURROUNDING THEM! :cheers:

I back out. now you've proven Jesus existed and turned water into vine. if that's SCIENCE to you, fine.

here, another one of those "scientific facts" and do yourself a favor and read it ALL THROUGH.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talpiot_Tomb

still your pal, but STILL looking for those books, "atheist scientists" and others who claim it's all true.

(and to be fair, MANY artifacts in MANY museums are of questionable origin. this is not the exclusive domain of the Catholic Church)
 
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YOU do your research: find a document showing us (outside of the Bible, written centuries after this "historical fact") that a Pontius Pilate prosecuted a Jesus dude. none exist. prove otherwise.

Now you're really showing your ass. That is the whole point of the inscription! But for the fact that the inscription exists, Pontius Pilate is no more a part of history than The Artful Dodger. There ARE no other references. That's the whole POINT!

Done with you after this:

So, your answer to my claim that you lied, is to say that other things like this were lied about?

You said it was fake. I showed that no one has gone on record disputing it. Busted.
 
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deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup said:
You say "Treat others the way tyou want to be treated"?

C'Mon, man, so you want people linking you to an evil satanic society without any real 100% factual proof it exsists or is either evil or satanic if it doesn't?

Look how mad members of this site get's because someone says FL Studio sux or a Mac's better than a PC. Every word of "reasoning" is a double edged sword.

5+5=10. Fact. Oxygen is in the air we breathe. Fact.

The things presented to display these men you make accusations against as evil are theories. Could be true, but no one has anything that is 100% factual proof.

Illuminati and their innerworkings. Theory. The world being flat. Theory. At age 500 Noah had kids, at age 600 he built an ark the size of a warehouse that held every species of animal in it while it rained 40 days and 40 nights, then they sat in it for months afterwards looking for land. Well Documented, but still theory. :cheers:

I don't call people satanists and claim they have devious intensions without knowing so. I wouldn't want anyone doing the same to me. I had "theories" on Barack Obama while all y'all "Yes We can" chanters were voting him into office, now y'all got the same theories that used to get me called an "uncle tom" 4-5 posts a day up here.

So don't think for a second my eyes are any less open because i ain't worried. Barack should scare y'all more than any of these N.W.O. cats that may be up to something. Barack scares me more than Bush ever did. but now I'm speaking on my theories. Notice I said "Barack scares me", that's in no way trying to convince you he should scare you, I could be wrong, I have no "facts" to back why he scares me, only observations that I will never fully understand. :cheers:
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I've never accused anyone of working with the devil who's actions and words don't reflect that they do and I don't speak of conspiracy when i say evil.. illuminati theories and conspiracy rants arn't needed for me to realise there is evil in this world that is influencing a large number of people, people i know and love included.
Its not coincidence that those that stand to gain the most and also have the means to do so are those with the most power and money in society...


Also i might add you refused to even acknowledge Remedys video posts which did contain the documented proof on the very same people i speak of who now have the worlds money and influnce..
It is not theory... It is historical, written and documented fact.

I understand we need to get our own **** in order. Not concerning ourselves too much with others actions without first looking at our own but i think thats the problem with this world now man. I hear people saying "I can't do much to change anything" and "I will be dead before that so why bother" etc...everyone is only looking out for themselves. What about those people left after we are gone.. what place are we leaveing for our children, family and loved ones...

I can see that your not an ignorant man deranged so please don't think Im questioning if your eyes are opened, my question is what will you do for those who do not yet see what you realise...

peace
 
JadeMonkey said:
I've never accused anyone of working with the devil who's actions and words don't reflect that they do and I don't speak of conspiracy when i say evil.. illuminati theories and conspiracy rants arn't needed for me to realise there is evil in this world that is influencing a large number of people, people i know and love included.
Its not coincidence that those that stand to gain the most and also have the means to do so are those with the most power and money in society...


Also i might add you refused to even acknowledge Remedys video posts which did contain the documented proof on the very same people i speak of who now have the worlds money and influnce..
It is not theory... It is historical, written and documented fact.

I understand we need to get our own **** in order. Not concerning ourselves too much with others actions without first looking at our own but i think thats the problem with this world now man. I hear people saying "I can't do much to change anything" and "I will be dead before that so why bother" etc...everyone is only looking out for themselves. What about those people left after we are gone.. what place are we leaveing for our children, family and loved ones...

I can see that your not an ignorant man deranged so please don't think Im questioning if your eyes are opened, my question is what will you do for those who do not yet see what you realise...

peace
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I acknowleged Remedy's vid...Acknowleged the fact that his video defended George Washington. One of the most infamous members of the illuminati as far as theories on it go.

Ain't no facts in these youtube videos that aren't tainted. I ain't said "you can't save the world". And trust me, I have full control over my life. Alot of people can't say the same. I don't look oput for just myself. I have family on top of extended family on top of the random f**kin homeless dudes I still give $20 dollars to in passing that I'll never see again in the middle of a recession!

I'm saying a curious nosey muthaf**ka who wants the answer to everything in life starts just making them up. It's like a multiple choice test, by question number 200 you've just filled in "c" for a few answers without even reading the question.

Don't be mad because i'm not running around with a camera trying to snap pics of big foot and the boogeyman. If that's how you wanna spend your time, cool, but so far, you guys have presented nothing but those shady pics that could be a man in a suit, could be a gorilla...we don't give a f**k to care until you bring us big foot in a cage or until bigfoot attacks.

That don't mean I don't walk through the woods with a shotgun ready for the Bears I know exsist. That don't mean said shotgun can't take down Big Foot if need be. And as I look over big Foot's dead carcus I won't say "WTF is that?" I'lkl say "damn...that's Bigfoot"...but until that day, he's the furthest f**king thing from my mind. Does that make me any less prepared for him? No, because i'm prepared regardless. Some "beleiver", would try to go snap a pic and get his head ripped off. Follow that analogy and quit trying to take me out to Lockness on a foggy night. :cheers:

We've all seen the pics and read the stories, don't feel like we "aren't aware" of the theories simply because we don't beleive them.

Most of you don't even know the origins of this Illuminati yet alone the origins of theories about it. Don't beleive everything you see on a youtube. Alot of those dudes are giving you the answer "C" without reading the question.
 
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deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup said:
I'm saying a curious nosey muthaf**ka who wants the answer to everything in life starts just making them up. It's like a multiple choice test, by question number 200 you've just filled in "c" for a few answers without even reading the question.

Most of you don't even know the origins of this Illuminati yet alone the origins of theories about it. Don't beleive everything you see on a youtube. Alot of those dudes are giving you the answer "C" without reading the question.
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It's the equivalent of the blind leading the blind. This illuminati ish is a prime example of "telling a lie long enough 'til it's true."

If people look at how the world is, you could see there's no "secret society" regulating everything. Moreso, it looks like no one actually giving a fcuk about you. Look at what's going on around you. It's horrible. Famine, genocide, religious warfare, etc...You think there's some group that sits up and write a script to propagate this ****?! No.

It's just that people are ****ing idiots. All of us. We're selfish, we're sneaky, and easily led astray from birth with the lies that "society" teaches. And more importantly, we don't give a fcuk. We're flawed organisms.

It's OK but, the world has been fcuked up for eons. We don't need a secret society to propagate this state of chaos in which we live. We'll do it very well on our own just by breathing and thinking. Gangs, rapists, drug addicts, bullies, thieves, murderers, arrogance, deception, hatred, betrayal, sexism, racism, classism, blah blah blah...I could go on forever.

Point being, there's no group keeping the rest of the world under it's thumb for the feel of control. What kind of control could you feel with this madness going on. The world is a messed up place and it's going to stay that way until people wisen up and realize it our fault things are the way they are. Not outside forces beyond our control. Or as some people like to call them...the Illuminati.
 
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