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    How do you define the difference between a beat maker and a music producer?

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    Do you think it's just some petty ego thing?

    Is it acceptable to be a "preset" producer in today's environment?

    Are you only the "real deal" if you sound design all of your own stuff?

    Does it boil down to what the individuals goals are?

    Is there a noticeable difference between a "music programmer" and a live midi/instrument performance artist? And if there is a difference, does it matter?

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    A producer is anybody who ...produces. lol it can be for film, a tv show, records, a cartoon, movie, etc.

    A "beat maker" is a music producer, but a music producer may or may not be a "beat maker".
    Idk, producer is like the real officail word, but personally, I think a "beatsmith" sounds cooler.
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    "The Beatsmiths", I'm gunna copyright that...if its not already..
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    I guess there are differences.. a lot depends on how noble a hero you want to make yourself, haha.

    In the end though.. nobody is going to care how it was made, by who, if it was a stolen idea, if the right people got paid for it,
    whether they used original or pirated software or whether it came from a sample pack or whether you spend all your days in the field messing with taperecorders to capture the rustling of grassblades just right.
    The moment it hits the record (or goes online) all that becomes entirely irrelevant to most people.
    If it's not to you, you're probably a musician... or should be.

    So yeah, it really boils down to what your personal goals are. If waiting around 5 days to capture the right field recording is what inspires you, then that's awesome. Go for it.
    If flipping through presets is inspiring to you, by all means.. buy them all. Just don't do it because it makes you the 'real deal', or because you think that's how it should be done ("all the pro's do it this way"... well then, do it better, faster, smarter or cheaper...beat the pro's at their own game)

    Aside from that.. I always take the difference between a beatmaker and producer as that a producer is a lot more involved. He might make the beat... as a part of producing the song or album, but he could also produce it with a beat bought from a beatmaker. A beatmaker can be halfway across the globe. A producer should be in the studio with the artist. He's the guy that either helps the artist realise their artistic vision or even helps develop that. On a big enough project, he might not even be hands on at all and really just in a directorial role.

    But I guess a lot of those old terms and their roles are really relics of before the digital age. Most electronic artists nowadays do a lot of their own engineering.
    Even on a lot of big records from the 70's and 80's the engineering and production is just as key to the end result as the artist's input. "executive producer" could mean anything from being a shifty loan shark, the studio boss, random friends to, you know.. actually doing something on the project.

    I'm neither.. I'm a renegade funk doctor.

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    There really is only one difference between a producer and a beatmaker...

    Beat makers are just that. They make beats.

    Being a producer is about seeing the big picture. Find/make the right beat that will fit with the right artist(s), Make sure the recordings are the best possible, be able to tell if instruments need to be changed to better fit crowd pleasing, bring in an audio engineer who can mix and master the project in the best way possible.

    Being a producer requires being able to network with a wide array of artists, audio designers, Record companies, distribution companies, as well as having a good knowledge of the business aspect of the music industry.

    A beat maker really only needs to know one thing: How to make beats.
    The only production a beatmaker does is 'produce the product to be worked upon'
    If the beatmaker is involved with the background workings of the project then they are not a beatmaker... they are a producer or executive producer.

    A producer works mainly in the background and only in the foreground if they themselves are beatmakers/artists/musicians.
    If a producer makes the beat for a project, then they are still a producer.

    So when it comes down to it, if a person has a hand in the business side of the project then they are a producer, if the only hand they had in it is that they made the beat (i.e. selling the beat online through a 3rd party), then they are a beat maker.

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    Great explanation Stoner Bill but truth be told cats need to focus less on semantics and stay about the music and business. The moment I produce a track is what considers me a producer.
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    Basically a producer see's the whole song process through ie working hands on with the artists songwriters musicians engineers etc. A beatmaker just emails the beat to the artist and doesn't hear the final product until it comes out. I think its ok to use presets just as long as its not a preset that have been exhausted by everyone else. Some of the songs we love the most were made up of presets. I tend to tweak stock presets or just make my own completely. I do think making your own sounds gives you an edge because whatever software or hardware you encounter you know the techniques to navigate it and get the sound you want.
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    If it's OK by admin to post a Youtube video? It appertains to the subject.

    Here's the opinion of DJ Khalid.

    DJ Khaled Explains the Difference between Beatmakers and Producers - YouTube

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    This topic becomes less confusing, when you figure out what each job/term means. It goes like this!

    Music Producers are people who are concerned with how the song or instrumental is going to sound. Notice I said ďSOUNDĒ. The producer of a song does not have to be the writer or composer of the song. He just basically overseen how it was going to come together sonically.

    Composers create music. No matter the genre. They compose melodies for songs, instrumentals, film music, tv shows, video games and theater. The melody is the music. In modern day hip hop, where a person creates original melodies for a rap song. He is the composer. The only time heís the producer also. Is when he sits in with his engineer and makes decisions on who things are going to sound. Like fader levels on all tracks, panning of every instruments and vocals. What effects he wants to use. Basically everything sonically.

    Beatmakers are people who donít create original music, but put together a backing track threw sampling short loops, chopping loops, basically what a lot of other guys do in hip hop music. Itís a cool way to learn music making. But eventually. You should wanna start to create your own melodies and grow into a composer and keep your publishing lol. Just remember that producers jobs are not to compose anything. But to oversee compositions as to how there are gonna sound, banging threw your speakers. If you compose your own melodies and program drums and put together compositions and then take them to the next level sonically. Then youíre a composer and producer. Your mix should have your style and name written all over it. Your melodies should speak to people to let them know who you are. And the term composer is not just for people in film, tv or jazz. Itís a term for what we do as melody makers! Oh is that a term? Lol. I hope this helped.

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    In general I agree that a beat maker is one kind of music producer.

    But when it comes to how the word feels, Beatmaker sounds more like it's you know... limited to beat making. I would call myself (and I do) a producer, when I'm also able to record vocals and rappers on a beat, or record music, or do anything so that a finished and polished piece of music is done. I feel like producing means making a song finished so that you can make it official for radio or youtube or whatever.

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