My Studio Acoustic Build/Pics Inside

[DaGSpotSoldier]

Whats up everyone....thought I would share this with my friends here at futureproducers!
I am creating a video for the whole thing.
Will be on my youtube channel.
Dozerbeatz - YouTube
So others can see how I did everything, as well
as types of materials used.

Main source of acoustic treatment can be purchased at Lowes.
I am using Roxul Safe'n'Sound.
So far, purchased 2 $40 packages of this:12 batts each package.
Shop]Shop Roxul 12-Pack 47-in L x 15-1/4-in W x 3-in D Stone Wool Insulation Batts at Lowes.com

Lowes offers "Ship to Store" if you want to go with the 2'x4' batts.
They did not have them in my local Lowes. And this size left me more options, just in case.


Currently upgrading my studio acoustics. Alot of work to be done.
Starting off with "floor to ceiling" corner bass traps.
I have completed those, just need to get fabric for front frame.

Floor to ceiling corner bass trap,
32" face with 16" depth from face to corner apex.
Here are some pics, though I am also doing video, to be edited later.

Before measurements have been taken, will also be taking after measurements.

Shop Roxul 12-Pack 47-in L x 15-1/4-in W x 3-in D Stone Wool Insulation Batts at Lowes.com

Halfway up one of the corners, with midpoint shelf.
I could have gone a different route, and used only one triangular piece of Roxul in
the corner, which would have given me about a 22" face, that would leave
alot of Roxul for doing four corners, or, extra panels. However, I am
purchasing another package of the Roxul for the rest of my panels.
As well as doing a diffuser build for the back wall, depending on measurements.

One full corner complete.

Full corner trap, with frame in front, frame not attached,
still have to add fabric. Frame built with 1x2" treated pine.
For 1x2x8": At Lowes
Treated Pine is $1.97 per piece.
When building, I recommend using the pine,
the regular cheap furring strips that are $0.97
are usually warped and bent. Unless you can
find some straight pieces.

Full shot, minus ceiling cloud, and other stuff I am building.
Don't mind the foam you see behind the desk,
that is all going to be taken down.
I have some other OC703 panels that are going to be placed in that area, Possibly.
The bench on the left will not be there when finished.
One side of the wall is 7ft, because of heating duct in ceiling, other wall is 7'10".
"STUPID HEATING/COOLING DUCT!!!" lol
Monitor distances subject to change, as well as possibly purchasing
additional 8" active monitors, which will not be tied into the sub.
I have outlined where I am going to use panels to straddle front "wall to ceiling".
And above me, where the ceiling cloud will extend.
The frames for the corner traps are not attached, they are
just leaning against them for now. Next photos will be with the fabric.
The wall behind the desk to be treated with panels I have allready.

Midway shelf for corner trap. The outer frame that will be
holding the fabric is going to be screwed to the center piece,
with one screw in center, through outer frame, into front midway
shelf piece, since outer frame weights pretty much under 4 pounds, and
can pretty much stand there alone with a screw.

Midway shelf with triangular cut top cap.
Extra framing wood piece under cap was used
to give support for the front face edge of cap.

Left over Roxul for ceiling clouds.
4 batts, plus excess waste pieces(to be used for something)

Also monitoring chain.
2)KRK RP5
1)KRK RP10S Sub.
Room dimensions are in first post of this thread, with sketch.
Speaker distance subject to change.
I built the monitor stands.
Monitors on three 1/4" clear rubber cabinet door bumpers.
One bumper under front, other two in back corners of monitors.

NOTEurchasing another $40 package of Roxul for other panels.
The current acoustic treatment you see, will change.
Some things in room will be moved, such as the bench seen next to the corner trap.

 

[mwandishi]

Looks nice. I look forward to seeing the completed pics. Don't sweat the fabric for your traps, u can always get burlap at a local fabric shop (although u don't have to get burlap). Do u plan to put anything behind the desk for reflections or is it a big open room?

 

[DaGSpotSoldier]

Yes, full details above the pic showing the full shot. Just updated original post.
Front wall behind desk to be treated. The foam you see will not be there.
Back wall(not shown), to be treated accordingly.

To tell you the truth, foam products have their place, however, for the money,
you are better off buying OC703/OC705, Roxul, or other types of insulation
that can be used for acoustic treatment, that will far exceed the foam products.

The price of some of these foam room packages, is freaking ludicrous.
If you are going to spend that kind of money, and want ready made stuff,
better off going with Real Traps or GIK Acoustics, and getting it done right.

The Roxul is $40 a package, and depending on size of the batts, you can
make various amount of panels. So if someone spent $80 on 2 packages,
they could build quite a few panels.
Plus the price of lumber, screws, and maybe bracing and glue, other.

However, many people who are just getting started, seem to think that acoustic treatment
is all about going out and putting foam all over your walls.
To do it correctly, you need to make measurements, which I am doing.
Once done with my treatment, I will take "after" measurements, and will
then see where I am, and that will determine my next step in
correcting the room.

 

[mwandishi]

Cool I treated my room this past summer (there are some pics somewhere in the post ur pics thread). I got my stuff from ATS http://www.atsacoustics.com (their prices are actually cheaper than most places), and I used the mineral wood also. Ya DIY is cheaper, but it can be a time consuming process. I wouldn't get rid of all the foam, I actually put up a few foam panels after I finished with my traps and absorbers ( just a couple spots).

 

[DaGSpotSoldier]

Oh, yeah, the foam will be used, but not as a main source of treatment.

 

[GIK Acoustics]

I'd say if possible make the ceiling/front wall corner traps wider to 24" instead of 16". The larger air gap would give much more bass absorption. Perhaps you could make smaller superchunks for those front corners and use those scraps on the inside of them? Everything else looks good so far though! Good work.

 

[DaGSpotSoldier]

I'd say if possible make the ceiling/front wall corner traps wider to 24" instead of 16". The larger air gap would give much more bass absorption. Perhaps you could make smaller superchunks for those front corners and use those scraps on the inside of them? Everything else looks good so far though! Good work.

I ended up going with a 32" face for the front corner traps..
Will be finishing up later today, take photos, edit videos, take
measurements to see what my next steps are. Still have to bass trap
rear wall, and other.

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Here are the finished pics, still more treatment in the future. Currently uploading
youtube videos, showing construction.

Side panels OC703 2" thick spaced 3" from side wall
Rear panels OC703 2"thick spaced 2 1/2" from back wall
Ceiling Clouds Roxul Safe'n'Sound 3" thick spaced 2" from ceiling.
Straddle traps at rear ceiling to wall apex Roxul Safe'n'Sound 3" thick

 

[GIK Acoustics]

Right on!

A few notes; you might want to try pulling the desk into the room a bit more and widening the speakers more. Try to get 4 to 5 feet between you and the monitors if it's possible. Should help open up stereo image.
Also, you might be able to slightly reduce some of the wrinkles of your panels by using a blow dryer on high heat but only blowing lightly. This doesn't work on all fabrics, but is worth a try to clean up the look slightly.

Edit: Also, have you done a sub crawl to ensure optimal position, or just sat it in the middle of the desk for convenience? You might be able to fill up nulls and reduce some peaks with careful sub placement. Obviously this would be done with testing. Move them sub 6"-12", test, move it, test, etc. It might be in it's best position but typically the center of the room isn't the best spot.

Good job though, how is it sounding in there?

 

[DaGSpotSoldier]

Right on!

A few notes; you might want to try pulling the desk into the room a bit more and widening the speakers more. Try to get 4 to 5 feet between you and the monitors if it's possible. Should help open up stereo image.
Also, you might be able to slightly reduce some of the wrinkles of your panels by using a blow dryer on high heat but only blowing lightly. This doesn't work on all fabrics, but is worth a try to clean up the look slightly.

Edit: Also, have you done a sub crawl to ensure optimal position, or just sat it in the middle of the desk for convenience? You might be able to fill up nulls and reduce some peaks with careful sub placement. Obviously this would be done with testing. Move them sub 6"-12", test, move it, test, etc. It might be in it's best position but typically the center of the room isn't the best spot.

Good job though, how is it sounding in there?

Thanks for the tips. Everything is going to be getting moved around during measurements.


That side panel that looks wrinkled, its actually a shiny fabric, so those lines were created from when
I pulled the fabric tight to staple. So it physically has no wrinkles, but when light hits it, you
can see the lines. The strething caused the threads to cone closer together in that area.
So far sounds good. I did some measurements, before and after...will attach .mdat files
and some screenshots in a bit. Plan on getting some better monitors, 8", not tied into sub.

I have video that I am currently batch rendering, so when that is done, I will
grab the measurement .mdat files and snapshots of waterfall, response( low end, full range.)
impulse response about 40ms range, rt60, other.

Edit: I have made a private youtube video that I am rendering that touches on the subwoofer.
But, yes, have to purchase some longer cable so I can optimally place the woofer. My current
cables are only 6ft.

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Here is the link to my Studio Acoustic Build Series playlist.
Playlist link
Studio Acoustic Build Series - YouTube

Videos in playlist:
How To Build Corner Bass Traps Floor To Ceiling
Part 1 How To Build Acoustic Clouds and Wall Traps
Part 2 How To Build Acoustic Clouds and Wall Panels
How To Hang Acoustic Panels With Accuracy
How to hang Acoustic Straddle Traps
How to hang Acoustic Ceiling Cloud Traps

The studio tour video, to accompany measurement screenshots is rendering. That will be a private video,
that can only be seen with the link I post.

 

[mwandishi]

Looks real nice man. How does it sound?

 

[DaGSpotSoldier]

Awwww shoot, there is some wrinkles in one of the panels....
THANKS GIK, I didn't even notice.....
its the one on the right side.
NO BIGGIE.., easy fix..
Seen the pic with my ECM8000, and seen the wrinkles, had to go check...sure
enough...
I did it on purpose?, for extra diffusion...lol...

 

[JayFooley205]

WOOOOOOOWWW I like that. It really looks good big homie

 

[Kash_23]

wow! that is amazing!

 

[DaGSpotSoldier]

UPDATE: I Pulled the stuff out of this Poor Mans Bass Trap, and
stuffed it with fluffy stuff, to be seen farther down in the pics.

Moved monitors 26" from front wall, spaced 4ft apart.

So, decided to make use of my old walmart eggcrate foam that I
used for ghetto treatment back in the day.
Stuffed it inside the box/shelf at the back of the room.
Along with a car cover that I dont use, and a sound blanket.
Used some 1/4" rubbery foam type underlayment I found in the garage
attic, left by the previous owners. Covered the front of the box with
underlayment. My cheap attempt at some sort of bass trapping.
Heck, since I had it, why not try it.

Underlayment

Stuff box, that face is the top of the box.

Box covered with underlayment. That is the bottom of the box.

Box upright, at back wall.

Covered with blue fabric, Ghetto blaster back in place

Put some foam tiles on top of side panels, angled.
ALSO ADJUSTED ALL SIDE AND FRONT WALL PANELS OUT TO 4"
FROM WALL.

Since my sub is pulled forward for better response, and causing
reflection into measurement mic maybe,.
There was large hole at 700Hz, because its gone after
I put the underlayment stacked up on the sub, and a little on
the desk. It also cleaned up the waterfall decay in the lowend.
Still need to get the darn longer cables to position the sub better,
haven't gotten to that yet.

New measurements

And these are measurements with EQ.
Used my Emu1820M Patchmix mixer to route my mic to Wave, and Wave
to ASIO. Set ASIO delay to 2ms. This allowed me to route
the measurement sweep from REW, through my DAW, with the Eq active.
As you may have guessed, the boost in the lowend, of course
caused a little mess in the lowend waterfall.

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There was not much bass build up in this back corner.
Did a quick test afterward, Decay times improved in lowend.
Of course, still need to cover with fabric.
More stuff coming...

This: $10
Johns Manville 300-in L x 15-in W x 9-1/4-in D R- 30 Fiberglass Insulation

Unwrapped:

Had some leftover, so I will be making this:
Little panel to go behind desk/front wall, along floor.
It will be compressed, and have two thin cross members.
9 1/4" doubled over, fit into 6" frame,
60"x15"x6"

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Changed the plans a little.

Taking down front wall panels and such.
Building my own freaking wall.

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White fluffy added
To be compressed with three thin slats of wood running vertical.
This is to make way for 3" thick roxul safensound
I could use fishing line, wrapped around small finishing nails.

Two 1x2's vertical holds it in place.
Secured with angle brackets.

The Wall!
I ended up making the center top and bottom wells are 6" Roxul Safe'n'Sound.
All other wells have white fluffy and 3" Roxul.

Final leftover white fluffy that is going in bass trap
at back of room. You can also see, to the left. the four straddle traps/absorbers that will be running the length of the room, at ceiling to wall apex.

I also have my two ceiling cloud panels(which were originally on the front wall, before the big wall was put up.)
Once I cover the new Wall and back wall corner trap,,,,hang ceiling cloud and side wall apex absorbers, and stuff
the bass trap at the back of the room, I will take more measurements.

UPDATE:

Front wall done.
Fabric held in place with clear tacks around perimeter.
So, I can always change things just by pulling off the fabric.
Fabric was 5 dollars at the thrift shop.
Believe its a queen size flat. Did not have to cut at all.

These were originally the left and right side panels, but now they
are the ceiling cloud. Two OC703 @ 33"x53"x2".
The side closest to the front wall is angled down farther.

The original front wall panels, are now the side panels. Same Two OC703 @ 33"x53"x2".
The third panel, the smaller one, is just leaning on the wall.
I have four of those, not sure where I am putting them just now.
Those are Roxul Safe'n'Sound 16"x47"x3"

I took all the ghetto foam out of the back wall box, and stuffed
it with left over fluffy. R30 Johns Manville.

Back wall, not finished. This is not how it is going to stay.
You can see the other two Roxul Safe'n'Sound 16"x47"x3" panels, and the other mini panels I made with some waste, on top of the thick dense foam square block. You can see the frame has been made for the white fluffy floor to ceiling corner trap. Just have to go find some black fabric to match the front wall corner traps.

Measurements coming soon.
I have yet to get those darn longer cables to reposition my sub.

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One of my many alternate monitoring, This is the car system.
Infinity sound with two Polk 12's.
Kenwood Amp I believe, maybe 2000watts, cant remember, its on the back of
the enclosure. Have not tweaked it lately.
I also have the truck that has a system also, pics of that system later. That has infinity sound also, with two 12" Polk Momos

I plug into the aux on the receiver with one of my laptops.
Car:

 

[One-9 Music]

S/O to grunts. Nice set up.

 

[Fonikz]

dope set up.. that rok it 10 looks boss as **** too lol

 

[Keidi-Sii]

nice work (Y)

 

[JeffreyMedia]

That will itch for a weak! Did the same here Nice!

 

[Anivan]

Looks really nice!

 

[rebbud]

nice place to relax and makes new beats and music