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    Hi all? Recently, an investor who wants to get into the music field contacted me about helping plan and run a startup Project/ Semi Pro Studio. The location is already soundproofed somewhat, has a vocal booth that is fully soundproofed, and has carpeted floors in the control room. I believe that it is a pretty nice location for a studio (even more so due to the fact that the previous owners ran a studio out of the location, so all of the wall wiring and soundproofing was done in the past). My question is... with a 13k budget to focus on equipment only, is the budget list that I have the best overall regarding a balanced, solid, studio to begin with? More can be added as clients are booked and money comes from their sessions. The genres of music will be primarily Hip Hop/Rap and R&B. Mixes will more than likely be sent from the studio to other engineers to mix/master, depending on the client. Tracking (vocal, guitars, and small percussion instruments), rough mixing/editing, and track production are the primary concerns of the studio. We are trying to stay in the digital realm for now; an analog console may be added in the far future if funds permit. We are looking for a clean, clear, yet somewhat warm, round sound (contradicting I know!) that can be manipulated afterwards and can keep up with and compete with radio/album material of studios in our area (Atlanta, Sandy Springs area). Pro Tools and Cubase are the software sequencers we will be running. Any help, comments, and/or feedback are wanted! Thx in advance. Here's the list:

    Sandy Springs Studio Setup

    Shure SM57 Cardioid Dynamic Microphone- $99.00 (75.95) 23.05

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--SHUSM57LC

    Peluso 2247 Limited Edition- $1675.00

    http://www.atlasproaudio.com/peluso.html

    Focusrite ISA220 Session Pack Microphone Preamp and Compressor- $1,495.00 (1,464.95) 30.05

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--FOCISA220

    Yamaha HS80M Active Studio Monitor (120 Watts, 1x8 in.) Pair, With HS10 Subwoofer- $1,099.00

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--YAMHS80M

    M-Audio Project Mix I/O Control Surface/Interface- $1,249.95 (958.95) 291

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--MDOPROJECTIO

    Mac Pro (Georgia Southern University Student Discount) - $3,146.00

    NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB (single-link DVI/dual-link DVI)
    Apple Keyboard and Mighty Mouse - U.S. English
    2GB (4 x 512MB)
    Two 2.66GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
    160GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
    One 16x SuperDrive
    1 Apple Cinema Display (20" flat panel)
    Mac OS X - U.S. English

    http://www.apple.com/macpro/

    Studio RTA Producer's Station- $499.99

    http://www.guitarcenter.com/shop/pro..._sku=102460813

    M-Audio Trigger Finger MIDI Controller with Pads- $199.95 (166.95) 33

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--MDOTRIGGER

    M-Audio Keystation 88 ES 88-Key MIDI Controller- $199.00 (193.95) 5.05

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--MDOKEYSTAT88ES

    Numark TTUSB Turntable with USB Output- $169.95 (125.95) 44

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--NUMTTUSB

    Neutrik NYSSPPL 48-Point TRS Balanced Patchbay- $89.95 (69.95) 20

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--NTKNYSSPPL

    Mackie Big Knob Studio Control Center- $299.95 (283.95) 16

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--MACBIGKNOB

    Auralex MoPAD Isolation Pad (4 Pads) - $39.95 (28.95) 11

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--AURMOPAD

    Yamaha MOTIF Rack ES Sound Module- $1,099.00 (800) 299

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--YAMMOTIFRACKES

    M-Audio SP2 Sustain Pedal- $24.95

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--MDOSP2

    QuikLok A346 Microlite Microphone Stand - Straight (Tripod Base with Telescopic Boom) - $39.95

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--QLKA346

    Monster Cables- $600 (Estimate)

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/ca...er-Cable--3230

    LACIE Design by F.A. Porsche 301103U 500GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache USB 2.0 External Hard Drive Retail- $212.60

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822154150

    Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP2b 1pk w/Upgrade Coupon for Vista OEM- $144.98

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116175

    Furman M8 Merit Series Spike Protector- $54.95 (38.95) 16

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--FURM8

    OnStage ASVS6GB Microphone Pop Filter- $19.95

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--MUSASVS6GB

    RaXXess SS36 Studio Monitor Stands- $119.95 (114.95) 5

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--RAXSS36

    Auralex Deluxe Plus Roominator Kit ROOMDLXPLUS- $799.95 (684.95) 115

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--AURROOMDLXPLUS

    Meinl Nino Conga Set- $199.95

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--MEININO

    Meinl Nino Small Cabasa- $15.95

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--MEININO701

    Rhythm Band True Colors Tambourine- $14.95

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--RHYTC40

    Latin Percussion Studio Chimes (25 Bars) - $64.95

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--LBL449

    2 Sennheiser HD280Pro Headphones- $199.90 (135.90) 64

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--SENHD280PRO

    1 Behringer HPM1000 Headphone- $9.99

    http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--BEHHPM1000

    Initial Total- $13,884.66

    Initial Left- $-884.66

    Save- $972.15

    Actual Total- $12,912.51

    Actual Left- $87.49

    Thx once again!

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    I would'nt recommend spending all but $87.49 of a $13,000 budget. That is a recipe for disaster in my opinion. Try to have a 'contingency' fund left out of the budget as there will almost certainly be things after which are missed/forgotten/needed/required/compulsary e.t.c e.t.c.....

    Also, mail your whole gear list to different retailers & get lots of quotes. Then get them to keep trying to beat one another on price till you get the cheapest. You should be able to whack quite a bit of money off.

    Good luck

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    Guitar Center says they will beat anyones price .....

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    1st off, thx for the replies thus far! Yea, the actual budget is 15k, but i'm leaving 2k in reserve just in case... so 13k is the limit for any equipment. Also, the investor has gotten in touch with a guitar center rep. so we're going to take the final list to him and see if they can beat the prices as well!

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    fam u sure u wanna use that focusrite as ur first preamp ?....y not a avalon vt 737?

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    Yea, I know the 737 is warmer, but I've never used it and I've heard that it's compressor lacks... I've used the ISA 220 before and I liked how clean it was on vox and the comp and eq on it got the job done. I'm looking for "clean" in a preamp, I don't want anything that will color the sound too much, I'll add pieces that do that when I gain more experience and know what sound I want. Something clean, so I don't have to commit to a certain sound or color is key, alot of the material won't be mixed by me. Anyone have any other suggestions for a pre in that range?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jb4play
    Yea, I know the 737 is warmer, but I've never used it and I've heard that it's compressor lacks... I've used the ISA 220 before and I liked how clean it was on vox and the comp and eq on it got the job done. I'm looking for "clean" in a preamp, I don't want anything that will color the sound too much, I'll add pieces that do that when I gain more experience and know what sound I want. Something clean, so I don't have to commit to a certain sound or color is key, alot of the material won't be mixed by me. Anyone have any other suggestions for a pre in that range?
    u could probably find a neve clone somewhere in that price range


    off the topic of preamps ......but have u thought about a/d converters yet ???.....
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    ^^^Yeah we have. Slipped the budget somehow.

    what do you think about the Appogee MiniME to get started with?

    I see ya Rel!
    Last edited by PlanetHitzProduction; 11-18-2006 at 08:47 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Do you know of any clones in that price range? I still have a fmr audio rnc from my homebased studio so if I can find a nice pre (I don't eq much going in) I could be set just as well. I was thinking grace 101 into fmr audio rnc... but the isa just seems a better overall choice. Not at all, lol, I've never used any convertors outside of the soundcards going into the software daw, i've heard apogee makes top shelf stuff, but since I've never used them, I don't know how much of a difference (I've heard huge) they'd make in the sound. Do you know how a convertor would go into the chain with the project mix running everything? Let me know!

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    (OFF TOPIC)

    So you go to Georgia Southern. Well HAHAHAHAHAHA, they lost their last season game today against the Central Arkansas Bears!!! In overtime. Im from hinesville and i went to see the game. Actually i like neither of the teams but whatever.

    Other than that, I think you have a NICE setup going there. I wish i could afford that.

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