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    Where should the kick and bass filter cut offs be placed to have everything in its own space?

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    here's the thing: a kick drum is usually higher than a low bass note in fundamental frequency, so it is not going to work like that

    • a kick drum can have a fundamental freq of between 60Hz and 120hz depending on how tight it is tuned
      • you then get additional freqs tied to beater material (leather/felt/wood) and any patches that may be at the spot where the beater hits the surface of the drum
      • so your kick drum can have additional peak freqs around 1kHz and even up into the 3kHz range depending on the nature of the materials in use
    • a bass guitar and any other bass synth can have a fundamental freq as low as 27.5 Hz (A at the bottom of the piano)
      • it's upper frequency limit is approximately 493.88Hz B above middle C, 24th fret on six string bass tuned B-1-E0-A0-D1-G1-B1
      • in addition,the bass can have an overtone/harmonic structure that can take it's upper frequency limit into the 5-6kHz easily


    sculpting a place for these two instruments is about co-location, eq, compression (including side-chaining maybe), as well as judicious use of high-pass and low-pass filters
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    I wish somebody would post side by side eq's of the kick and bass in its own space

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    i will for 25$ just PM me

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    I'm havin this same issue 😕

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandcoach View Post
    here's the thing: a kick drum is usually higher than a low bass note in fundamental frequency, so it is not going to work like that

    • a kick drum can have a fundamental freq of between 60Hz and 120hz depending on how tight it is tuned
      • you then get additional freqs tied to beater material (leather/felt/wood) and any patches that may be at the spot where the beater hits the surface of the drum
      • so your kick drum can have additional peak freqs around 1kHz and even up into the 3kHz range depending on the nature of the materials in use
    • a bass guitar and any other bass synth can have a fundamental freq as low as 27.5 Hz (A at the bottom of the piano)
      • it's upper frequency limit is approximately 493.88Hz B above middle C, 24th fret on six string bass tuned B-1-E0-A0-D1-G1-B1
      • in addition,the bass can have an overtone/harmonic structure that can take it's upper frequency limit into the 5-6kHz easily

    sculpting a place for these two instruments is about co-location, eq, compression (including side-chaining maybe), as well as judicious use of high-pass and low-pass filters
    This is one of the hardest
    THINGS TO FIGURE OUT
    Last edited by bandcoach; 11-19-2013 at 08:47 PM. Reason: fixed quote (no hardest in the quote)

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    for exactly the reasons given - there is no simple answer nor will there ever be, simply because of the amount of frequency range overlap between the two sources
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    okay when it comes too ur personal preference an it all depends on how good ur mixing on monitors and headphones reference , plus u need ur room treated u wont get the best mix on ur spot cause of these factors ..jus sum tips
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