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freeones

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Getting my T3i this weekend. Gonna shoot some video for my boys. Wanted to know where I can learn about music video production and and all that stuff.
 
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I intern at production studio... That's where I have learned everything. If you don't have opportunities to learn from someone experienced I suggest doing what a lot of directors did to learn - watch. Watch a lot of music videos and pay attention to the different cutaways, angles, and techniques.

I don't do music videos but here are the three production steps:

Pre-Production: Find your locations, write your script, make a budget if needed. Write a shot-list that has all of the materials you will need and the locations for each different shot.
Mid-Production: Call up actors, or the artist the video is for. Have your shotlist ready by order of location so you don't need to go back and forth. Go to each location and shoot each of your shots.
Post-Production: Put a rough cut together - it won't have any sound or transitions edited yet. It is just a rough video of the story being told. Then, go through and cut clips to make transitions smoother, add effects, use sound for cutaways, etc.

I hope this helps at all. I'm sure there are more in depth tutorials on the net. Good luck.
 
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QoS said:
I intern at production studio... That's where I have learned everything. If you don't have opportunities to learn from someone experienced I suggest doing what a lot of directors did to learn - watch. Watch a lot of music videos and pay attention to the different cutaways, angles, and techniques.

I don't do music videos but here are the three production steps:

Pre-Production: Find your locations, write your script, make a budget if needed. Write a shot-list that has all of the materials you will need and the locations for each different shot.
Mid-Production: Call up actors, or the artist the video is for. Have your shotlist ready by order of location so you don't need to go back and forth. Go to each location and shoot each of your shots.
Post-Production: Put a rough cut together - it won't have any sound or transitions edited yet. It is just a rough video of the story being told. Then, go through and cut clips to make transitions smoother, add effects, use sound for cutaways, etc.

I hope this helps at all. I'm sure there are more in depth tutorials on the net. Good luck.
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Hey thanks for the detailed post! finally got some idea! appreciate it! but I have one last question. The one I'm most confused about. I hope I can explain it. Its last part. After I have all the vocals matched up with the video. How do I pick the parts? Like most videos I see, a scene is max like 3 4 seconds and itll cut in to a rapper rapping somewhere else. How do you go about doing this. Like do I just put all the videos on top of each other and cut little little parts out so like its showing different scenes? if it makes sense? How would you do this part?
 
For a normal film you usually lay out all your video and then do your audio, but it would make more sense in this case to lay your audio out first.

Lay down the song on the editing timeline, thats called your master track. Wait... Before I explain this, do you mind telling me what you have for editing software, and if you already have the footage or not? I can show you how to do it but it would be pointless if you have never used the software before. Let me know.

Thanks,
QoS
 
QoS said:
For a normal film you usually lay out all your video and then do your audio, but it would make more sense in this case to lay your audio out first.

Lay down the song on the editing timeline, thats called your master track. Wait... Before I explain this, do you mind telling me what you have for editing software, and if you already have the footage or not? I can show you how to do it but it would be pointless if you have never used the software before. Let me know.

Thanks,
QoS
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I'm using adobe premiere. I understand the master track and laying the video and stuff. Got that down. Its the part I'm trying to understand is how to make my videos flow. Lets say I shoot 4 scenes. From what I see most videos. Its 4-5 seconds of one scene, 4-5 of another, then another and so on? U know what I mean? I wondering is this random?

I was just testing this out so I shot my self rapping to one of the rap songs in my room. Just first verse.The way I did it is like this. I recorded verse from different angles and different places in the room. (again I was just testing it out to try to understand it for later)

Lets say I shot about 4 different places rapping the same thing. My question is do editors just pick random spots to flow the video? Cuz if you watching a music video. Its usually. Guy rapping lets say in the house. And another scene hes rapping on a bridge and another hes rapping in the streets and so on. But hes saying the same words, same verse. But the editor makes it flow. So you see this guy rapping the first verse in different places for 3-4 seconds and repeat. you know what I mean? I'm trying to figure out how this process is done and if its random?

What I did was, lets say this line is video dragged in on the timeline. ------------------------------------

What I did was drag the mp3 file of the song. And then lined up (lets say the first verse) All on top of the mp3 and the files on top of each other.

So it looks like this:

-----Mp3------------------------------
-----Video 1 of verse-----------------
-----Video 2 of verse-----------------
-----Video 3 of verse-----------------
-----Video 4 of verse-----------------


And then i just chopped off the random parts of each video so you would one see one at a time. Like this :

-----Mp3------------------------------
......------------------------------......
-----.......o 2 of verse------......------
-----Video...... verse-......------------
-----Video 4 o,.......-----------------

The "...." represents What you would be watching with the mast mp3


Lol I hope im not going to deep into this and its simpler then im making it? Hope you understand what I'm asking. Thanks again for the help!!
 
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Alright. For pre production you decide all of your locations. Yeah, most music videos the MC's change locations frequently.

After pre production go out and shoot all your footage at your multiple locations. Then, import all of your clips into adobe premiere. Maybe each clip will have one line from the verse.

Let's say you have a verse of 5 lines at 5 different locations:


AUDIO (the master mp3 of the song): -----Line 1-----Line2------Line3------Line4------Line5------
VIDEO (several different clips filmed): -----Line 1-----Line2------Line3------Line4------Line5------

You match them up one by one. Just cut and lay em down over the audio to match them with the vocals. I think you are over-thinking it. The only difference between the video and audio is that the audio stays the same while the video is a bunch of cut up clips. There is no reason to overlay your video tracks and then cut them like in your diagram. If it still doesn't make sense let me know.
 
QoS said:
Alright. For pre production you decide all of your locations. Yeah, most music videos the MC's change locations frequently.

After pre production go out and shoot all your footage at your multiple locations. Then, import all of your clips into adobe premiere. Maybe each clip will have one line from the verse.

Let's say you have a verse of 5 lines at 5 different locations:


AUDIO (the master mp3 of the song): -----Line 1-----Line2------Line3------Line4------Line5------
VIDEO (several different clips filmed): -----Line 1-----Line2------Line3------Line4------Line5------

You match them up one by one. Just cut and lay em down over the audio to match them with the vocals. I think you are over-thinking it. The only difference between the video and audio is that the audio stays the same while the video is a bunch of cut up clips. There is no reason to overlay your video tracks and then cut them like in your diagram. If it still doesn't make sense let me know.
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Oh ok I got you. Yeah I was just wondering if just cutting clips and stuff or am i just over thinking the whole process! Thanks a lot for the help.
 
freeones said:
Oh ok I got you. Yeah I was just wondering if just cutting clips and stuff or am i just over thinking the whole process! Thanks a lot for the help.
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You're not over thinking it, you are right on track. I wouldn't say it's completely random, you have to have a feel for what works but I'm not going to lie and say every shot and cut is preplanned. Your system would work however you have to be careful not to break a basic rule. If you are cutting between shots and different locations then you need to make sure to not create a jump cut. A jump cut occurs when you switch between two similar shots. Meaning, two shots that are framed in similar ways. Don't have two close up back to back, two mediums, extreme wides etc... Camera Shots Is a good list of all the basic shots.
 
Intrinzik said:
You're not over thinking it, you are right on track. I wouldn't say it's completely random, you have to have a feel for what works but I'm not going to lie and say every shot and cut is preplanned. Your system would work however you have to be careful not to break a basic rule. If you are cutting between shots and different locations then you need to make sure to not create a jump cut. A jump cut occurs when you switch between two similar shots. Meaning, two shots that are framed in similar ways. Don't have two close up back to back, two mediums, extreme wides etc... Camera Shots Is a good list of all the basic shots.
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Great tip bro! thanks a lot! I can use more tips lol
 
First things first. Get a good concept.
What is it u want viewers to see and why?
Know that there are millions of music videos. Why should i watch urs?
Try to stand out of the crowd and let people talk about ur vid.

Second: get ur pre-production done.
Choose ur locations, actors and get ur equipment ready.
Lights, lenses, shotlist etc. I advise u to create a storyboard before shooting the vid.

Third: shoot the vid. Use the shotlist as a checklist.

4th: post-production: cut and paste ur video together.
Note: best audio quality for editing is 48kHz and not the standard 44.1kHz.
Tell the artist to deliver the audio with these specs.
Tip: when u edit ur vid, place cuts at a moment when a viewer would blink.
Sounds strange, but a cut feels 'good' at a moment when the viewer had enough time to suck up info with his eyes.
After the final edit spice it up with After Effects. Color correct ur vid etc.
 
yes adobe premiere is not as bad as it looks.. its really pretty easy.. just sit down study the look of the program.. learn your basics of cutting and sliding your clips to match your track.. very easy..
 
Ouija8 said:
yes adobe premiere is not as bad as it looks.. its really pretty easy.. just sit down study the look of the program.. learn your basics of cutting and sliding your clips to match your track.. very easy..
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I switched from Final Cut pro to Adobe Premiere, because you can load an entire Premiere in After Effects. Reaaaallllyyyy handy!
 
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