2nd hand mixer vs Cheaper 1st hand

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Hi there, 1st post on these forums :)

I recently bought my 1st pair of decks (2nd hand set of numark pro tt2's) from my flatmate (hes getting 1200's) and with them got his mixer on a temporary loan while he gets his new ones. The mixer is a Pioneer DJM 300, and i like it a lot. When he eventually shifts his arse and gets his new decks he might be getting a new mixer at the same time and has offered me this DJM for £90. Now its only a year and a half old and has seen frequent use, is it worth it?

I know a lot of you are americans, so to put that price in prespective (rather than just converting it) a new (and strangly familiar looking!!) Behringer djx400 costs £90.

I like the DJM, and the djx400 seems to be an EXACT copy (my untrained eyes cannot find any differences in various spec sheets) down to the stlying and everything. How is it possible for the djx to cost £90 new and the DJM to cost £250?!

My question is; Should i take a 2nd hand DJM300 off my faltmate for the same price as i can get a NEW djx400 from a shop? Is the DJM that much better build quality to warrent it?

Cheers!
 
Yes! Snap it up. I used to have that mixer and loved it. And you wont find one for that price anywhere.

Any £90 new jmixer isnt worth a wank anyway.
 
He he, never realised we could get away with 'wank' on here, oblivious Americans!


Anyway. Behringer DJ products are disgusting!!! Most of them are in fact complete carbon copys of well known mixers, the DJX 700 is the most obvious. I presume they have some kind of agreement to do this but anyways, the specs may be similar to but the components inside are very cheap, as are the faders etc. £90 for a Pioneer mixer thats only a year or so old is well worth it, it'll still last you another good few years with heavy usage. And I'd love to say I owned a Pioneer for my first mixer!
 
take the DJM-300 man. it has some built in effects and other things that the behringer doesn't have. plus the sound quality you get out of it is going to be 100 times better than with the behringer - used or not.
 
I own a DJ company in TN with 7 mobile systems and 4 "installed" systems in clubs. 2 of my 7 mobiles have behringer mixers all of the other systems us either Rane or Pioneer. I NEVER take out the Behringer's (I send them out with the newbies). In short, Behringer makes a decent product that will do the job, but Pioneer makes a MUCH nicer mixer so get the Pioneer, you won't regret it.
 
Contrary to what everyone thinks Behringer actually makes quality products. What's really nice is that they are really cheap too. Unfortunately they do it by ripping off other manufacturers designs (sometimes exactly, like in this case).

When it comes to mixers, I'd usually recommend buying new but in your case, the Pioneer might be a better choice. You have experience with the mixer, so you already know if everything works properly or not.

The DJM-300 does not have any effects like trizkut said earlier but it does have a beat counter. No beat counter can be completely accurate but Pioneer makes the best and closest beat counters. Even with Behringer ripping off designs, I doubt they could get their beat counter to be as accurate as Pioneers. So stick with the Pio, if only for the beat counter (which can be very helpful for beginners!).

Good Luck
 
ski said:
Contrary to what everyone thinks Behringer actually makes quality products. What's really nice is that they are really cheap too. Unfortunately they do it by ripping off other manufacturers designs (sometimes exactly, like in this case).

Even with Behringer ripping off designs, I doubt they could get their beat counter to be as accurate as Pioneers. So stick with the Pio, if only for the beat counter (which can be very helpful for beginners!).
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Sorry but this is utter crap. Their DJ products are frigging terrible. I've used a few Behringer compressors is my time and they seem to get the job done, and im not totally against their "Truth" Monitors either but their DJ products are just awful, cheap nasty, sound like crap and they break. If you buy a new Behringer I guarantee the channels will be bleeding way before this year and a half old DJM 300 does.

Dont let BPM counters be a decisive requirement of your mixer. Cover them up when you get them.
 
Whoa Beefy, you seem to be really wound up about my comments. Calm down guy and reread my post(not the excerpt you quoted). Keep a few things in mind.

1) Behringer is low end.
2) Low end USUALLY means cheap (quality & price)

I never said BPM counters are a requirement, I was merely clearing up some misinformation that was posted earlier (i.e that the djm-300 included effects). The original poster wanted opinions on each because to him "they look exactly the same, spec for spec". So I basically was pointing out what could be a difference that he wouldn't know.

Now here's where I am wrong. I DO NOT actually have any experience with Behringer DJ PRODUCTS. I have the 2031a Truth Monitors in my home studio however and a few of my friends use Behringer mixing boards in their home setups. You even say so yourself that you have used a few Behringer products and they "get the job done". This is what people want in low end products. That's the whole point! They are cheap but they will get the job done and get you by.

The funny part is how you said Behinger mixers are " awful, cheap nasty, sound like crap and they break." I feel the same way of Pioneer Mixers up until they released the djm707 & 909. I used to own the djm-600 which at one point was regarded as the best mixer at the time, but to tell you the truth, it felt like crap, the audio headroom was too low so it distorted easily, and was overpriced. I truly believe the only thing worth it was the included effects.

Now if you tell me Behringer dj products are crap and will break right away, I will have to take your word for it, my overall opinion was based on their other product lines.
 
Thanks for the replies guys :) Helped me work a lot of things out in my head.

It seems that he may have withdrawn the offer of the djm 300 :( (not really supprised, from the sounds of it he'd be daft to sell it that cheap) Im lucky to have a fairly good set of decks for learning on as it is, so maybe ill just have to swallow going with a low end mixer after all ;)

I may go for the berhinjer copy... after all I am familiar with its layout by now :) £90 was about my budget limit for a mixer anway :(

I know its best to buy as best gear as you can as early as you can.. but thats about all i can stretch to just now..!

p.s. wow, could i have put any more smilies in there?
 
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We had a nice lil argument brewing in here. :)

Okay...Behringer is low-end....but to be called "utter crap" or "useless" is not entirely fair. Just as Ski said...it's low end and you shouldn't expect the amenities of a Bentley in a Ford escort. You get me? :) It gets the job done though.

Hey check out these smilies! :)


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Heh heh! :D
 
i'd have a Numark DXM03 over the behringer, retails at £99 online.

I have only tried one behringer mixer, the DJX700. And it's a piece of crap, feels awful quality, the faders and knobs are cheap and it weighs less than my old numark 1001x!

My mate tried to tell me i got ripped off paying £300 (equivalent of, actually paid £400 with a pair of HDJ1000's included) for my Pioneer DJM707 but he can keep his crappy effects and extra 2 channels, you wont find me near another Behringer DJ product any time soon. Effects can be added later, quality cant.

(Although behringer studio equipment is quite good)

Anyway, i think you should try and prise that DJM 300 off him! Try and offer him an extra £30-40 to see if he parts, you will still be getting a quality mixer at a very good price.
 
I like the look and features of that DXM - 03. Within my price budget too, nice :)

Another plus - it doesnt have those bloody beat counters on it, which i cant help but turn on every now and then to check :( Holding me up somthing rotten!
 
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