Mad Pierrot Le Fou
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Bandcoach is doing the damn thing...unfortunately there is probably only like three people here that can read music lol
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Hinojosa
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bandcoach
Zukatoku - Mod Scientist
F#minor/G major would be in the key of D major (F#min is chord iii and G is chord IV)
B minor/Cmajor would be in the key of G major (B min is chord iii and C is chord IV)
G minor/Ab major would give you the feel - these are chord iii and IV in the relative major: Eb major.
I can provide other forms of notation on request - I have created some software tools that let me do it quite quickly.
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JMOSSONDATRACK
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how would that be a d major scale when its starts on a F# chord? i think if i find the answer to that alot of my problems will be solved
bandcoach
Zukatoku - Mod Scientist
1st: It is an F#min chord, world of difference to F#
2nd:Followed by a G chord gives me lots of information to make a decision about the key:
F#-A-C#-G-B-D
Notice that there is no E - this is helpful in more than one way.
rearrange so that we get something approaching TTSTTTS - the pattern for the major scale
F#-G-A-B-C#-D-F# is STTTS2T (STTTSTT) so not F#, although the pattern is the Phrygian mode.
A-B-C#-D-F#-G-A is TTS2TST (TTSTTST) so it is not A major (also the lack of E, the fifth would count against calling it A major). Pattern is Mixolydian mode.
D-F#-G-A-B-C#-D is 2TSTTTS
which is the same as writing TTSTTTS if we account for the missing E.
So we conclude from the evidence available that D Major is the most likely key. Adding weight to this are the facts that F# Phrygian and A Mixolydian are both modes of D Major. As noted above, that makes the chords, iii (F#minor) - IV (G major) in D major
Similarly, we can look at the B minor - C major and come to the conclusion that it is in G major - iii-IV.
And so I can then suggest G minor - Ab major for Eb major as relative major to C minor.
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JMOSSONDATRACK
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i was with you up until "TTSTTTS" man i feel like an idiot
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nvm i got it tone and semi tone
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nvm i got it tone and semi tone
bandcoach
Zukatoku - Mod Scientist
TTSTTTS is the pattern of semitones and tones in the Major scale. T=tone and S=semi-tone.
Some USA based scholars prefer WWHWWWH, where W=whole-step and H=half-step.
I have issues with this, as we would then be using the word Whole in two entirely different contexts with different meanings, only leading to more confusion.
Consider the piano keyboard:
If we chart out the white notes from C-C, counting how many keys we have to move through to get to each note, we get the following:
.2.2.1.2.2.2.1.
C.D.E.F.G.A.B.C
The numbers add to a total of 12. This is the number of semitones in an octave. From this we can say that the pattern is
Being the creatures we are, this is a bit long-winded, so we abbreviate this by coming to the realisation that 2 semi-tones must be 1 tone and then substituting T and S throughout:
Some USA based scholars prefer WWHWWWH, where W=whole-step and H=half-step.
I have issues with this, as we would then be using the word Whole in two entirely different contexts with different meanings, only leading to more confusion.
Consider the piano keyboard:
If we chart out the white notes from C-C, counting how many keys we have to move through to get to each note, we get the following:
.2.2.1.2.2.2.1.
C.D.E.F.G.A.B.C
2 semitones, 2 semitones, 1 semitone, 2 semitones, 2 semitones, 2 semitones, 1 semitone
Being the creatures we are, this is a bit long-winded, so we abbreviate this by coming to the realisation that 2 semi-tones must be 1 tone and then substituting T and S throughout:
TTSTTTS
JMOSSONDATRACK
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Im so confused lol