Who's your favourite Rap/HipHop artist?

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I just don't see people being violent because of what they listen to. Think about it, books effects people more than music (most of the time), so how come people don't roll around calling themselfs Don This N Don That after reading Marrio Puzo books?
I totally agree with smartiehouse on this. Now, (according to my law lecturer, who's from NY by the way) people have three things to keep them in check. Religion, custom and law. You dropped religion, the US is too mixed for custom, so you only have law left. Unfortunately law isn't flawless nor is it as frightening as the other two. Religion says God sees all, no getting away from that. Custom says you're going to live your life in shame no matter where you go all it takes is one person to say something, can't get away from that because someone always knows something. But law says, if you do this N that and IF you get caught, then there's a CHANCE that you'll go to jail for so N so years. Basically the US (and many other forward countries) put law in the place of religion and custom, but it doesn't fill the gap. Isn't the most classical US response to "You're disturbing me", "So sue me!"?
Unfortunately (according to a sociology lecturer, from TX) the violence in the US will continue untill the population of the US act as one body and start making their own customs and beliefs. Basically, when 90% of the people on the street respond to "You're disturbing me" with "Yeah, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have done that"... because I was brought up to believe against that myself.
Let's not forget that the US is still forming its own race of people.
So instead of complaining about the music, change the thought, the music will change with it. Give people a common ground, a common belief. Music doesn't make people, people make music. They're only reflecting what they've seen, what they believe with music. You wanna make a change, change their belief, educate them, protect them. Don't run away and tell them to disapear, you know that won't happen.
 
That was real lame!

There's no way any of today's youth is gonna change
thier point of view, because you, me, or anyone
tries to "educate" them!

They've been runnin un-controlled too long. For too
many generations. If you can't put the fear of God
in thier heart, you can't change them.

Mankind cannot change someone's heart! Only God can
do that, and the large majority of Rap, & Hip Hop
artists are not putting out a pro-God message!

They are doing quite the opposite! They are tellin
today's youth, "that if it feels good, do it!"
It's the same crap Elvis started with, just wrapped
up in a different package.

You go to the inner city, or the urban city, and
try to "educate" these young thugs, and they'll
laugh in your face! They could care less what you have
to say. They're into rebellion, man! Because all thier
idols sing about it, and live it! That's what they
look up to.

Sure a few kids may listen, because some of them are
smart enough to know they'll go to jail if they get
too wild. But, by and large, you're fightin a lost
battle.

It all starts with the parents, who were raised in the
same mind set. What most of these kids need is a real
good *** whippin, while they are young. That'll git
they're attention, but most parents don't know how
to teach thier children. Without God's Commandments,
they have nothing worthwhile to teach thier children.

Then, Hillary Clinton comes along with her message
that "It takes a entire community" to raise your kids,
that is socialism, my brother! And that is bordering
on all out communism, which has been proven to be a
complete, utter, failure!

All I can tell ya from here, is one of them thug punks
come mess with me, and my family -WILL git thier fool
heads blown off! If you can't control them with the
governments laws, then common citizens will HAVE to
take matters into thier own hands, when a crime is
taking place!

That reminds me, I need to go clean up my M-16, and
all my handguns....


[Edited by Rockrz on 10-04-2000 at 12:50 PM]
 
Hey, in my world I have a God-given right
to protect my family & myself!

Since the government can't do anything, then
the citizens have an obligation to!

THAT will put some fear in these young punks
goin around doin crime, at will.

They will begin to think about, "well, if I try
to mug somebody (or whatever) I might get killed
tryin it"

What we need in this country is what they did back
in the old west! Good people need to take up arms
to protect themselves.

Whata you want me to do, when crime is takin place?
Call the cops?

Everybody will be dead, by the time they finish thier
donuts, and take thier merry time goin to the call!

Most of these cops are scared to death of gettin shot.

I'm not though! I know where I'm goin. So, I have
no problem with using deadly force, to protect innocent
victims from some crack-head that thinks he's god,
and can do what he pleases!

God, ain't got no problem with it either. You can only
do so much for helpin these young punks!

After that it's time to shoot back!!!
 
what makes you think I was taking about the gun part... It's your whole attitude about people that is sad..:(
 

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Hmmm... me and you could argue this all night long, but it's so boring to argue with narrow minded people (which was what you said about others as far as I remember).

1) Only god can change what people have in their heart? Well, I guess we can throw away psychology, coz you know, we can't change the way people behave now can we?;)

2)Educating the youth doesn't mean you go running around with a book in your hand.

3)Kids need a real good whipping? Now, as far as I learned in psychology (it's a hoby of mine, and I did take it as a course. I don't like to talk about stuff I have no idea about;)) the system of punishment doesn't actually work so well, the reward system is usualy better. One good reason is that once the person who gets punished is strong enough to punish back, he/she won't give a flying f*ck what you have to say :) It's been proven all through history.

4)For some reason uneducated people love talking about comunism, so why don't you tell me what it is? See, I don't think it is and I just spent a year studying the communist system in detail, so I might actually learn something from you which I didn't from people who spent their lifes studying and debating it.

5)It actually does take an entire community to do anything, that's why we have nations, they're just big communities.

6) You're going to blow their head off and take the law into your own hands? Have you go ANY idea of the dangers of what you just said? Do you actually think Napoleon was an idiot to put down civil rights? Can you imagine what the world would be like if everyone thought like you? I bet you'd be the first person BEGGING for communism. Let me help your thoughts, humans are greedy, it's the basis for economic sciences (e.g. economy, finance, etc.). No one can ever have enough, known fact. So when do people stop protecting themselfs and start causing damage to others? answer: When a third party, with no gains in the affair, judges. Guess what? That's what they're doing already :) If it's not sufficient for you, then you live in the most democratic country in the world, run for presidency and change it:). Or is that too much for a man like you? :cool:
 
Okay I've been reading this thread for a while now, and I want to say somnething:

digital dreams, I like what you've posted.

Rockrz: don't defend yourself after Dig. Dream's post, because we saw what you had to say, and we know many people think like you, and we don't hate you, everything is ok. Just read his post and try to not take it as an attack.

peace
 
You suck and I think you are trying to be somthing your not.. trying to understand something you cant and I think that you need to get yourself in check before you get a a** whoopin' Not that I am saying be violent here.. but that sort of attitude will just get you in trouble.

I hope you can see the difference between you and you silly words and all the others here... You came in to rain on a parade of coolness that had nothing to do with the bull crap you are talking about.

Im out

DivaGirl

[Edited by divagirl on 10-04-2000 at 04:09 PM]
 
My bad to all those who had posted that is ignorant on my part, im not trying to start beef but you know..anyways my bad for the disrespect im not one to start static...peace out BALD-E
 
I can see this is a bleeding-heart liberal
kinda crowd!

If all that psycology, communistic, liberal
crap is working sooooo good, why are we lookin
at kids killin each other everytime we turn
on the evening news?

This world, mankind is going down hill. Even
Darwin rejected his own theory on his death bed.

As far as protecting myself goes, God gave me
that right! No, I don't want to ever have to
shot anyone. But, if I ever did, it would be
legal, because of someone putting my life in
danger! I won't put up with it.

Sure spamking a kid can git outta hand, if the
parent does'nt have his head on straight.

God recommended it. He said "if you spare the rod,
you hate they child" It's for getting the child's
attention in order to sit him down and train him
in the way he should go!

Thats something that parents, teachers, ect. are failing
miserably at these days! It's time to responsibly
go back to the basics. Not a bunch of liberal
reward systems. Those kids'll take your reward and
act cool while you're watchin, but let em outta site,
and its a different ball game...

And I would let communism have the pleasure of having
me. I know enough about it to know that millions
have been slaughtered by communist governments, just
to force themselves onto the population. I guess that
does'nt convince you that its bad?

I'm smart enough not to have anything to do with it.

And I could care less if anyone "attacks" me or not!
I'm gonna live forever in Paradise, baby!!!

I'm just passin through this world. I'm not so worried
about my "wonderful flowered filled" life on this
earth, like you liberals are!

Don't even get me started on those TRAITORS, clinton
and algore. These dudes ARE the scum of the earth.
They've sold our country out....

I'd better save all that jazz for the next round!
 
actually... don't get me started on those fools either.. I'll have you know that I am a conservitive sista and have no bons about it...

I would much rather have Allan Keys any day of the week then Al Snore.. so don't get off this page.. I think you should not be such a blanketing *** and think that not all people who listen to rap or hip hop have the ideas you think we have... MF

Out...

DivaGirl
 
Oh, Allen Keyes would have been a better
choice than Bush to have up there now!

I don't think all Rap/Hip Hop fans think
like that! But, ya have to admit that the
most popular artists have problems!

I just hate to see the young, impressionable
kids think that beatin women, murderin,
doin drugs, an crime is cool. Cause it ain't!

These kids just need better role models than
this! They deserve better.

Of course, I'm a "belevin" man! I know Jesus
is comin back soon, and I just want these
young people to know that the world is
feedin them a bunch of crap!

It's the same thing as in generations past,
and it's not limited to any one race, either!

People just don't know that satan is real, and
he's tryin to kill us all, by gettin us to
kill each other.

If you don't know the power of God's Spirit,
you're gonna have problems getting any
lasting results when you try to help the
younger generation. And God answers to
the name of Jesus Christ! Not mohammud,
mary, or any other name you can think up!

For those that don't believe that, just
wait. Try to get into Heaven without Jesus.
You ain't. and your gonna find out!
any one wanna gamble?

I won't apologize for tellin anyone that
psycology, communism, or any religion will
do you any good. Mankind is tryin to fight
a spiritual battle, with natural weapons!

That's like tryin to put out a fire by
throwin a bunch of gasoline on it.

Talk about gettin in trouble!

And for those that don't believe, You
WILL soon, maybe sooner than you think.

My hat's off tooya, divagirl...!!!

BTW, are you a singer?

[Edited by Rockrz on 10-04-2000 at 09:32 PM]
 
well once again a good time has stopped...lets not bring the whats your favorite hip hop artist t a political arguement lets get back to the fun..I know im not getting the last word because he will write back but reall if we want to politic we can post e-mail bald500@aol.com ill finnish this conversation in a for real debate...hell it might be fun a way to vent what we need to vent so hit me up mano just told us to quit it so lets leave the post alone.ROCKER hit me up bro no beef just exchangeing veiws...ok bro BALD-E
 
:) cool. No worries pals.
How about closing this thread?

ahh by the way: it hsa nothing to do with religion, or point of view or whatever... no cursing or shooting people here that's all we ask.

Feel free to start new threads

Peace
 
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