California said:if history has taught us anything it got Planethitzproduction'ed. or maybe a glitch or somethin
Cameron Thomas said:Well now that you're back. Why do you think all underground hip hop sucks? That's the same as someone saying all mainstream hip hop sucks. I find more talent in the underground then I do in the mainstream by far but I wouldn't say all mainstream hip hop sucks. You do have your kids who have that elitest attitude who will listen to garbage music just because no one else does but you also got a lot of kids who will listen to garbage music just because everyone else does and not give underground music a chance because it's not selling as many units as Young Jeezy.
clarhck5 said:cali doesnt even really like hip hop period but strangely is always hanging in the hip hop threads
California said:hip-hip music itself is tight, if its done right. but most of it has been crap . the real old stuff and alot of the new stuff sucks, like this crunk/hyphy "movement" , this might be our cue to start doin some other type of music. ill still make rap beats every now and then but it will be predominantly RnB, Alternative , even Pop im sad to say . but im also sure that like every other wave that comes and goes , good hip-hop will start emerging once again in the coming years after its 99% crunk type crap and people get tired of it . but as for the Underground thing . i dont like most mainstream stuff either . its just that all the underground beats ive ever heard have like this wack and random Jazz sample in it and sometimes its not even chopped on time or anything. always has a rediculously loud snare with the highs turned all the way up and a bitter rapper pandering about things that most likely never happened and even if they did , its not gonna help anyone anyway. talkin about the reason i have to sell drugs is because bush is in iraq for oil and thats why billy cut his wrist when his prostitute girlfriend dumped him. and then theirs that other type of underground rapper where they think theyre using big words but all their doing is using words that end with the same suffix talkin about nothin, example " the lyrical chronological knowledge will defy the radically logical metaphoric experimental flow when i come through with linguistic hypnotic to yo girl" . i want people to try these following steps and i promise you will have an underground beat .
step 1. load a piano jazz song into your software (cubase, acid etc)
step 2. mark a spot in the song to loop for about 6 seconds and just loop it at random, dont even figure out the BPM of the song or anything.
step 3. make a simple drum pattern , but make sure you put 2 kicks very close together every now and then, i mean real close like in 2 squares in a 1/16 zoom in.
step 4. turn the highs all the way up.
step 5. render the song
step 6. enjoy
California said:hip-hip music itself is tight, if its done right. but most of it has been crap . the real old stuff and alot of the new stuff sucks, like this crunk/hyphy "movement" , this might be our cue to start doin some other type of music. ill still make rap beats every now and then but it will be predominantly RnB, Alternative , even Pop im sad to say . but im also sure that like every other wave that comes and goes , good hip-hop will start emerging once again in the coming years after its 99% crunk type crap and people get tired of it . but as for the Underground thing . i dont like most mainstream stuff either . its just that all the underground beats ive ever heard have like this wack and random Jazz sample in it and sometimes its not even chopped on time or anything. always has a rediculously loud snare with the highs turned all the way up and a bitter rapper pandering about things that most likely never happened and even if they did , its not gonna help anyone anyway. talkin about the reason i have to sell drugs is because bush is in iraq for oil and thats why billy cut his wrist when his prostitute girlfriend dumped him. and then theirs that other type of underground rapper where they think theyre using big words but all their doing is using words that end with the same suffix talkin about nothin, example " the lyrical chronological knowledge will defy the radically logical metaphoric experimental flow when i come through with linguistic hypnotic to yo girl" . i want people to try these following steps and i promise you will have an underground beat .
step 1. load a piano jazz song into your software (cubase, acid etc)
step 2. mark a spot in the song to loop for about 6 seconds and just loop it at random, dont even figure out the BPM of the song or anything.
step 3. make a simple drum pattern , but make sure you put 2 kicks very close together every now and then, i mean real close like in 2 squares in a 1/16 zoom in.
step 4. turn the highs all the way up.
step 5. render the song
step 6. enjoy