your forgetting hammer...pop goes the weasel...and a bunch of other POP SONGS w hip hop 'elements'...real shit always comes out underground...ppl dont really go diggin in the crates or listening to pps shit when it does come out....the radio is a bad barometer for realness cause its a commercial entity...
it seems to me like what really separates different styles are the actual drum grooves and certain melody/harmony combox that become standard...or, if not standard, the copy cats come out to redo what they liked.
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good lyrics always enhance a song ...thats what electronic music doesnt connect woth as much people as it prob should...know y? cause making the right lyric or hook for a piece of music is so hard...most of the greats can only do it normally. music is like any other craft, the more you know about it, the easier it is to do, and the more it just kind of becomes a formula.
i mean, at the end of the day after all of the splitting of hairs is done your "beat" is nothing more than to a certain drum groove, which are limited, to, hopefully, sopme kind of melody, and, hopefully even further, the knowledge of harmony to help the melody "do wat it do"
knowledge is always the first roadblock in this game bec thru automation and computers...making music isnt also a physical endeavor. if you have a thoro knowledge of comps and MUSIC you can make it...but how many "producers" actually learned an instrument or understand mixing, mastering,a ll of it, its a huge job cause its a bunch of different skills, not just one, wghatever, the shits funs
