The Gambling Man Who Co-Founded Apple and Left for $800

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RT@Maestro In the immortal words of @Akachico, "if if was a fifth, we'd all be drunk." Don't be afraid to be Ron Wayne, follow your heart.

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Pahrump, Nevada (CNN) -- Ron Wayne is usually just another gambler at the Nugget Hotel & Casino in Nevada. He comes here a couple of days a week to try his luck on the video poker machine. But on this trip, he drew some curious onlookers, as he was escorted by a CNN camera crew. A gift-shop worker asked him if he's famous.
"Well, I'm one of the founders of Apple Computer," Wayne responded.
Wayne, 76, is used to the puzzled looks. He said people assume that he must be living in a mansion.
"I'm living off my Social Security and I do a modest trade in collectors' stamps and coins," he said.

The irony of being inside a casino is not lost on Wayne. After all, if his short-lived career at Apple had gone differently, he would be holding a different kind of winnings: 10 percent of Apple's stock.

Today, that stock would be worth $22 billion.

Wayne left Apple for only $800.

"What can I say? You make a decision based on your understanding of the circumstances, and you live with it," he said.
Wayne's tenure at Apple began on April 1, 1976. His name is signed on the legal document that established Apple -- next to those of Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, the Silicon Valley giants most people associate with the popular tech company, which makes the iPhone and iPad.

Jobs and Wayne had become friends a few years earlier while both were working for the Atari Corporation.
"We did get fairly chummy, had lunch together, dinner together and had conversations," he said.

As Wayne tells it, Jobs asked for his help in drafting documents and mediating a dispute between Jobs and Wozniak. He also drafted the company's first logo and operating manual. For this work, Wayne was awarded a 10 percent stake in Apple.

"What Jobs had in mind was that he and Woz [as Wozniak is sometimes called] should each have 45 percent and I would have 10 percent as mediator in any dispute that would come up," he said.
That account is backed up by other reports.

In Steve Wozniak's autobiography, "iWoZ," he described Wayne as "one of those people who seemed to have a quick answer for everything."
"He seemed to know all the things we didn't," Wozniak wrote. "Ron ended up play a huge role in those very early days at Apple."
But Wayne had early misgivings. He had been unsuccessful in starting a slot-machine manufacturing business. He racked up thousands of dollars in debt.

With Apple, he was concerned history would repeat itself.
"I could see myself getting into this situation again, and I was really getting too old for that kind of thing," Wayne said, noting that his partners at Apple were 20 years younger than he was.

"The way these guys were going, they were going to bulldoze through anything to make this company succeed. But it was going to be very rough ride, and if I wasn't careful, I was going to be the richest man in the cemetery."

Eleven days after Apple was formed, Wayne removed himself from the company charter. He eventually was given $800 for his stake in Apple, and he let go of that valuable Apple stock, which has exploded in value since.
Wayne said he doesn't let himself wonder how things could have been different if he had chosen to stay with Apple.

"Obviously he [Wayne] didn't have the foresight to know what Apple would become. Like any company in the very early stages, there's a risk associated and you've got to be willing to take it, or you're not," said Ben Bajarin, a technology industry analyst for Creative Strategies.
Wayne, whose net worth is mostly tied up in his extensive coin and stamp collection, said he's as "enamored with money as anybody else."
"But when you're at a focal point of history, you don't realize you're at a focal point of history," he said.

A retired engineer, who has worked at various companies since his departure, Wayne said he never has owned an Apple product.
"I never had a real use for computers," he said. He recently purchased a Dell, saying he's too familiar with Microsoft Windows to want to switch.

the dude @Maestro speaks straight facts...shit is so true..


http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/06/24/apple.forgotten.founder/index.html?hpt=C1
 
wow...I would be bitter as hell!

But if he was such a significant player in Apple's early stages you'd think they'd throw him at least a couple thousand for the trouble on top of his social security
 
wow...I would be bitter as hell!

But if he was such a significant player in Apple's early stages you'd think they'd throw him at least a couple thousand for the trouble on top of his social security

LOL this buisness is full of sharks they dont give shit bout your social

security.One mans lost is another mans billions
 
LOL this buisness is full of sharks they dont give shit bout your social

security.One mans lost is another mans billions

Well that might be in the millions-range, but Steve is working for free nowadays so he doesn't need the money...throw that poor man a million please
 
wow...I would be bitter as hell!

But if he was such a significant player in Apple's early stages you'd think they'd throw him at least a couple thousand for the trouble on top of his social security

Can't save the world. i wouldn't be surprised if he's been thrown more than "a couple thou for his trouble" on a few occasions, but just kept managing to f**k up. Think of all the entertainers, lotto winners, big businessmen, ect. who've had big money pass thru their hands who will very well live off social security years down the road as well.

It's possible. lol.
 
Yeah, this dude is hurtin'. He was on a radio show I listen to and he said that Jobs and Wozniak could never agree on anything. He said Jobs was the business mind and Woz was the brain and really didn't even care about the business side. He said Woz was a genius. He didn't speak to highly of Jobs. He said he saw Woz a few times since he left Apple and hung out with him and had a few laughs, said he hadn't seen or heard from Jobs. He said he was almost middle age when he met them and they were fresh out of college in their 20's. He said Steve Jobs always talked about doing something on his own even though they were making decent money.

At the end he said "I wouldn't mind if someone kindly dropped a million in my account"

He said he tied all of his money up into inventions and he has a lot of patents for products that have never seen the light of day. He said that's his hobby - to invent things.

Sounded kind of sad.... but he's not owed anything.

I doubt if Bill Gates just drops a million on his old co-workers. He didn't stay with their company long at all, eleven days. He said he got $1500. He said he went on some trip and came back and saw that things might be to stressful for him with the company.

If they gave him a million... I think he'd blow it again from the way he sounded on the radio.

... then he'd need another million.
 
Now he wants to bring out a book called the Adventures of an Apple Founder (For 11 Days That Is), he said he knew the company would become successful, I think he simply was scared. Sometimes a man will hear his calling and will be scared to commit to it, because it can be frightening.

Also don't forget that they value the 10% to the current circumstances, Apple went almost bankrupt, and I'm sure there were a few people jumping out and losing out on money as well. Those who stick through it till the (happy) end, get the biggest chunks.
 
How many start-ups were there trying to become the new big search engine back in the late 90s? 10? 20? 100?

Of course everyone who didn't think supporting Brin and Page @ Google was a good idea is an idiot............well, not really.
It's the people who invested millions and billions into the companies that FAILED, who we are not talking about.

It's a bit like talking about the lottery. Everyone thinks "why didn't I pick the right combination?". Well, because if everything was as clear and deterministic as some think (after a company has become successful), then every single one of us would be a billionaire.
 
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