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    Cool A new Sampling monster: Roland MC 909 Groovebox

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    I was surfing the net. Reading reviews on audio equipment and I came across the Roland MC-909 Groovebox. This machine is going to be a monster. Like mpc4000 you link it to your pc with usb to edit and resample samples and sequences. Plus it has some of the sampling features as the Roland VP 9000. I heards some remarkable things about the Roland VP 9000. Available in December for $1,700. I have a Roland MC-303 and a 505. I'm going get one to go with my MPC2000 and my MPC4000.

    The Link is : http://www.mc-909.com/
    Let me know what you guys think.
    Check it out!!!

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    909

    yep, i do think it looks interesting as well,mainly for a live use.

    I am looking forward to try it,even if i wasnt too happy with the 303/505.

    $1,700 seems a bit overpriced to me anyway......hhmmmmm

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    looks nice
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    i hope is doesnt sound like the mc-505. i had one and i can say it was the biggest peice of junk i ever invested in.the mc-909 looks ok. the USB thing is kool.it has a "master section" which i think is so funny. they say part of mastering is reverb. what the hell is that? lol
    and the thing does video also. dont you think this thing is trying to be a RAVE in a box? after buying the mc-505 i will never buy another roland product made after 1996.
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    It has a few nice features. The SRX capability one of the better things about it. Seriously though, this thing does not multi sample so why are you going to need 250mb ram?

    This is a box designed for live use, therefore you need a solid kick *** sequencer, right? Yeah well this aint the box for you, and here's why...

    16 track sequencer. No extra parts or patterns, just 16 tracks without much variation going on within your song.

    Each phrase you create must be the same length as the rest. This is absolutley ludicrous. So if you want a 16 bar synth sequence to go alongside your 4 to the floor kick loop, you will have to program your kick 16 bars long. THE SAME APPLIES TO THE SAMPLES!

    I don't like the look of this box at all. I own a Yamaha RS7000 and I must say it kicks the pants out of the 909. I have 10 patterns of 16 tracks per song. I can hardwire a patch to my track so that when I change pattern I can switch the patch too! Thats like having 160 tracks in your song! (not simultaneous of course!) Overdub recording of knob tweaks (of which the RS has over 20) including 4 effects blocks, midi controls (delay, clock shift, gate, velocity, swing, beat stretch) , 6 filter types, ADSR for amp, pitch and filter, pitch bend and portamento.

    Add to that 8 master effects (lo-fi, distortion, delay, multi-comp, slice, filter, isolation and ring mod), real time loop remix, 64mb sampler with a recycle type slice function built in that maps your drum loops to midi notes, 2 midi outs and 8 analogue outputs (with AEI2 board).

    So... I would think twice before getting a 909. It doesn't do multi sampling (neither does the RS7000) but if you just want a phrase sampler/sequencer look at the RS.For multi sampling go for software or an Akai/ Emu.

    MC-909 = $1700 US

    RS7000 = $1000 US
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    dopamine,
    how do you rate the RS7000's internal sounds ? are they any good ?
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    It doesnt multi sample in the traditional way, but your samples are cut up by the variphrase (which works REALLY well) this alows the sample to be strechecd accross every key with control over pitch, formant and time of the sample all in reall time. Vibrato sounds natural accross the whole keyboard.
    a sample is also the basis for a patch, and can be mixed with XV tones to create one.
    suBs:cool:

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    The RS7k contains a very good selection of bread and butter sounds. I'm very happy with them and if you want to hear an example have a listen to one of my tracks, the links in my sig. ("happy screams" and "flowin" contain only sounds fro the RS7K)

    My music is techno based so I tend to effect the hell out of everything so for me the RS shines.

    subsunami.... thats an interesting point about the 909 and one I had overlooked. Sounds impressive. But then again so does Kontakt controlled via Sonar with my RS7000

    I would have to admit that the 909 will sound better than the RS7k but the RS7k does have the same tone generator as the Motif...so it's no slouch by any means.

    The main advantage of the RS is that when you incorporate more gear into a live set the sequencer kicks serious *** over the 909.... without a doubt.
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    afaik, itīs the same TG like 505.
    unfortunately they keep going with the weak sequencer which isnīt even possible to hold different measure lengths and different meters in the same pattern like the RS7000.
    TheRealDopamine stated that before
    sounds and effects are pretty dated if you take a close look they should have had implemented the sampling unit in the 505 back in ī98 instead of the crappy and totally useless D-Beam sh*t to be competitive with MPC sorta stuff.

    now they come up with an old technology and sell it for pro-prices. in the end it depends on what you use it for.
    if you have nothing, maybe itīs ok for starting but waaaaay too expensive IMHO!!
    if you have outboard equipment, go for a good sequencer in the first place and thatīs what the RS is about.
    AND it offers sooo much more plus.
    it seems to me the 909 is another "all-in-one-standalone-groovebox-toy" for big boys with too much money.

    donīt want to put it down too much- surely it has some cool features and many people WILL like it, but i donīt.
    perhaps i should try out in the shop, but thereīs no real motivation for me to do that.

    iīm fed up with love-hate-roland-relationships...

    didnīt waste a thought about buying this roland crap.
    if you compare MC909+MPC2000xl to RS with OS1.2
    they really look PALE against RS.

    just my 2cents

    @ TheRealDopamine
    you might add the xpansion board and the RAM.
    itīs another 227 Euro for the board and some more
    money for the SIMMS...but still no 1700 US dollarsjust for a name!!

    peace,
    lasher

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    mc909...?

    i had chance to play with it for a bit...
    sound oke but not that impressive..
    i like big screen, and usb connection with PC (wow good job roland finally , importing transfered-roland file in zip disk was pain in the asssssssssssss...)
    i m not sure about scsi option.... is it like sp808? if it is... man there is noway i m getting this mc909...
    don buy the gear just kus it's pretty... hee hee hee
    sampling engine same as sp808?
    i know most of efx r same (course mc909 has more)
    new monster huh...?
    roland... u have owned some rolands...
    tbs, sp, etc i like some and i m pretty mad about some...
    how come it doent have 4 trk digirecorder like sp808( i know they could've add some more part for 1700$).. and they still have that beam thingie? does anyone use it anyways?
    is it me or roland is kinda slow for everything...
    and how long are they gonna support this new monster? for like 2 yrs and that's it.. just like other rolands gears...
    lets see what they r going to do about mc909 after 2yrs.. hee hee.. i can see users complaning about bugs and errors but just like always roland dongiva **** because they are too busy in MIDDLE of DEVELOPING new GEAR...
    just like always... you know what i mean... nomore roland for me..
    get MPC not roland.... mpc is worht money even after 5 yrs
    (like mpc60)...

    it's about time we teach roland the true meaning of product support...they suck at it..

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