• Things I've been learning while at school

    So I currently attend an audio engineering school in Tempe AZ (I wont mention the name but yes its that school)
    And I have learned A few big tips that have opened my eyes to Audio Engineering and Producing in general thought I'd share ten eye opening experiences (not in any specific order). Also if you dont agree tell why or if its redundant just ignore it was intended for ppl just starting out

    10. You dont have a studio. Lol this is like day one at school. Technically a studio is the room where the band performs. The control room is where the engineer is at with the console and the iso booth is well just that an iso booth. Also studios are treated and have floating floors to help with rumble. Instead of wasting your money recording in an inferior room and letting you talent go to waste buy studio time in a pro studio. If you want afford that than save. There's not Walmart of audio. Also you should pay to mix your beats to maintain the highest quality of sound if you not good at it.

    9. You can make a shit load of money in live sound!!! I dont know why I never see ppl chatting about live sound but I think its where the money is!!! A year ago a former grad was interning with taylor swifts crew and he is now her in ear monitoring engineer. He makes 5k a month! Also since most ppl cry about the mixtape game and how artist go tour off mixtapes isnt it a good idea to learn live sound since concerts are still a great source of income for artist. I believe Rihanna made 90 Million last year of her tour.

    8. Learn to solder!!! Its a must in live sound. And also if you want to intern at studio. Patchbays are a pain in the A** and most have to be soldered. Also if you can solder you can make cables that are just a good as monster cables but 3 times cheaper!

    7. Stop buying crappy gear. Seriously this goes without saying. Ive answered a lot of questions about ppl asking is this okay or that...you know its not. When ppl say "I'm hear noise when I record" the common answer is check your cables but if all is well your just witnessing low inferior gear. (Its actually a good thing you realized it) now you know stop buying crap. Buy the best have it for life.

    6. Learn how to read transient response graphs and frequency response charts. I have found so many mics that have very similar frequency responses to u87's. A MXL v69 ME is a great mic for 299 and it has a similar response as a u87 the high end is a little sharp but if you tilt the mic 45 degrees of axis the highs roll off. (Illmind used this mic to record Skyzoo's mixtape) and it sounds great. Also you get to learn how do things compare in sound. Beats by Dre headphones are good but so are Sennheiser hd280 and cost one third of Dre's but sound just as good maybe even better

    5. Stop calling yourself a producer. I know this one seems a little disrespectful but the game of this forum is "future producer" not current producer. Ppl be like "I've been producing for ten yrs and want to finally step y game up what a good mic under 100 dollars?" WTF if you are a real producer you would know that. I've been guilty of it too but I have since stopped bc its disrespectful to Quincy Jones

    4. Read the Manual before buying the gear!!!! Please read it. Stop asking how to do something before reading the manual. Also I will let you know how it works and if it is suitable for you. I have been looking for a console for two months and I have read several manuals to see how they work. Most fall short bc of my price point and my needs. But at least I didn't buy the console that find out its not ideal. So read the manual before you buy!!!

    3. Watch Pensaco's place - Pensado's Place - ITL #31 - Hardware Compressors and EQs - YouTube its so informational and you get to see a great engineer work and it will show you little tricks and tips to improve your overall sound. Learn how to get your mix like "Johnny Juliano or Vybe Beatz" LMAO

    2. A.This is a two parter. There is a thing called "producer mode" lol. This is funny to me but its true. Inline consoles have a big and small fader and most usually have a flip or rev button that will switch which fader that is going to the mtr (tape or daw) it is useful because if your working with Madona and her daughter is in the control with you and she says I want to hear mommy's vocals louder and the most logical thing for her to do is reach for the large fader. Every one knows the large fader turns up the volume (it doesnt do that lol) but if you slap her hand away you get fired. So put it in producer mode and let her have at it. She doesnt mess up the tape and you dont get fired for slapping Madona's kid.

    B. Most "producers" in hip hop are not producers. They be in producer mode two and dont even know it...lol but my reason for this one is bc as I have become more aware of the music industry I have been let down by most ppl. Producers know everything about everything. I dont know how many times I watched interviews of producer's and they get asked a technical question and they cant answer it. But Dr. Dre gets slammed for not making every beat. But ask him why he tracks in his vocal chain. Diddy is another prime example of a producer who doesnt make beats. But he's more of the "I want her vocals to sound like shes wearing pink lipstick kinda producers lol if you get my drift) I love Diddy! LOL They're is two of the few real producers in Hip Hop. You gotta give thim all praise. I dont dis any one who makes beats bc I do too and you can still make a gang of money but just know the difference between the two.

    1.School is the best way to make it happen if you want to work in a studio!!! I know most will debate this but if you want to work in an elite studio you need to go to school. Oasis studio in LA only takes students from my school. Eddie Krammer assistant Engineer is also a former grad. We have some instructors that have worked with Stevie wonder, Michael Jackson , price, Paris Hilton (BIG MONEY) and so many more. The thing about school is that the intern dept and instructors have made the relationships and networking already. They go to bat for the their students and have travel to NYC to convince studio managers to give their students a job. 54 nominations at this yrs grammys. And 28 winners is a damn good look. Some have even worked on the watch the throne album. Also you get to see what standard gear is so you dont buy crap. You get to use it too. I'm pissed I cant afford a good pair of monitors but at least I know what they sound like so when I am able too I'm not wasting my money. Also you learn from pros that have tracked vocals with Stevie wonder (and had a session crash on him lol) those stories give you invaluable info that you cant find on forums. Learning Pro tools is cool but you need to really know it. like how to get passed a password protected file in pro tools with out the password. or how to get back a corrupted file when Stevie wonder is cussing you out (talk about pressure) Also you get to learn analog first!!! we get logic when we start but we dont dive into recording into a daw until 15 weeks in. The first 15 weeks are recording to analog tape.

    I just wanted to share some eye opening experiences I have had while on my journey...to the ones who are working in the industry share a few!!!

    Also I'm thinking of doing a weekly video of tips I learning while in school. Would any of you be interested and what topics in general would interest you. Keep in mind my school is super crazy about recording sessions or class time with a video camera. Thats the reason why you never see any sessions on youtube (and why I never mentioned the name lol). Its prohibited! but I may try to turn my laptop camera on during my next session. I'm recording to analog tape than gonna transfer to pro tools later. Full band!!!
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    Comments 111 Comments
    1. Camron122's Avatar
      Camron122 -
      this is sweet man good post.
    1. jaypluto's Avatar
      jaypluto -
      Great post! I got alot out of this.
    1. tartunian's Avatar
      tartunian -
      Nice post. Quick question: how do you go to school for audio production and cover your bases so you have a degree worth falling back on?
    1. epotts06's Avatar
      epotts06 -
      Quote Originally Posted by tartunian View Post
      Nice post. Quick question: how do you go to school for audio production and cover your bases so you have a degree worth falling back on?
      I have my bachelors degree already...however I dont believe in the "back up plan" If you want something go get it... And I have pretty good options right now...
    1. deezzer's Avatar
      deezzer -
      Got it! Open to sound engineers to mix down! Msg me!
    1. The8btz's Avatar
      The8btz -
      Good advice!
    1. jatk2381's Avatar
      jatk2381 -
      great post fam! thanks for the info! 1luv
    1. Byrostar Bryan Olak's Avatar
      Gr8 post thanks for the info
    1. Buzzzzzzzzz's Avatar
      Buzzzzzzzzz -
      good post bro
    1. ProjectBlack Beats's Avatar
      good post opened my eyes quiet a bit!
    1. 7thChannel's Avatar
      7thChannel -
      good post
    1. audioguy's Avatar
      audioguy -
      Quote Originally Posted by tartunian View Post
      Nice post. Quick question: how do you go to school for audio production and cover your bases so you have a degree worth falling back on?
      The best way to cover cost for college is to find a roommate to share cost with. Schools will post messages on white boards in the break room for students looking for a roommate. Talk to a college recruitment officer, theyíll have resources to help you find a roommate.

      Even before you start, it's a good idea to find a gig in live sound or at a studio. It canít hurt to try and get out before receiving your degree; studios are always looking for an eager student. I've also seen students fill out as many scholarship applications to earn more money; some say it's purely a numbers game with that.

      Lastly, if you canít find a live sound gig, get a part time job and start building up your equipment, in audio production, you might not find a job right away, so don't be afraid to start your own business.

      Having your own gear will help you learn more techniques faster being that you have access to gear 24/7. I hope this answers your question.
    1. Pherm B Leeva's Avatar
      Pherm B Leeva -
      Great advice, watched an hour long episode Pesando's place, pretty informative stuff, a couple of recommended effects plugins, cheers indeed.
    1. legendary63's Avatar
      legendary63 -
      What is the name of your school???
    1. Rubix Shogunna's Avatar
      Rubix Shogunna -
      RZA never went to no damn audio school, if you got it, you got it. Simple as that.
    1. Brannu Studios's Avatar
      Brannu Studios -
      Good Ish!!!! I moved to Tempe, AZ 3 1/2 years ago to attend a school that teaches video production (I make music videos now in AZ!) and I learned so much technical things that a reg person would never know! Check out my music videos at brannustudios.com
    1. imperialdee's Avatar
      imperialdee -
      Good advice, Keep up the good work.
    1. manuonline's Avatar
      manuonline -
      GooD Post Amigo
    1. DMN86's Avatar
      DMN86 -
      Great post, need more like it.
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      PandahMusic -
      great post