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I'm really feeling Sean Paul's beats, they could be the best thing to happen to mainstream hip hop ( even though its ragga )since Timbaland. I think its time for the Neptunes to take a backseat, its beginning to sound the same.

Also, look for alcamist to get some mainstream exposure, that'll sort mainstream hip hop out.
08-16-2003
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-Moving Thread To Dancehall / Reggae-

fits better with Dancehall / Reggae than hiphop.

08-16-2003
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cringer cringer is offline
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i'm not sure if this is the answer you wanted but...
in dancehall culture you have two main eliments, the DJ and the Producer. Sean Paul would be considered a "DJ". now i know he doesn't mix records or probably doesn't even touch any vinyl when he performs, but the Jamaican dancehall idea of DJ is based on the American "Disk Jockey". meaning this: the DJ is the one who talks over the beats being played. sean paul doesn't necessarily work WITH a producer like the Neptunes or Dr. Dre or whatever. in dancehall, a producer is an independant being. they make beats (called "Riddims") and then they distribute them to many artists, like sean paul or elephant man or kiprich or lexxus or beenie man etc. etc., and then they do they're own vocals over top of the riddim. and that's how sean paul gets his beats...not from one producer, but from many. in fact in dancehall culture it's not uncommon for a producer to only ever make one or two riddims and never be heard from again. there are ALOT of producers out there...but little credit is given to them, and is instead, given to the DJ, like sean paul. if you want to know who made the riddim that sean paul is "toasting"( rhyming/MCing ) on top of, you'll most likely have to read the fine print of CD jackets or ID3 tags or whatever. most likely if you don't live in Jamaica, you won't find out anything about the producers. you also have to understand that producers send they're riddims out to MANY djs. so if you can find out the name of the riddim you like, then you can find alot of other dj's version of that riddim. for example:
the "Bollywood" riddim has versions by -
Capleton - lock up
Sizzla - heat is on
Lexxus - girls girls
Harry Toddler - dig up
Tanya Stephens - addiction
Beenie Man & Robyn - red red
Danny English & Egg Nog - hot for real
Keri - diggin me
Mr. Vegas - war
Elephant Man - in the streetz mega mix
Future Troubles - drunken master
Determine - more fire
Ward 21 - roll up
Frisco Kid - more marijuana
Alozade - street thugz
Captain Barkey - buss a shot
Mr. Vegas - cocky she want
Mr. G - bounce yuh girl
Wickerman - come out a mi place
Galaxy P - good o
and probably more that i don't know about.

so... i hope that helps you understand the world of dancehall.
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08-16-2003
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great post king man

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08-16-2003
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to add something ... diwali is a cool riddim, but not as hot / bad or over complicated as other riddims... Lenky was lucky to make this tune. i still prefer shams or tony kelly. People new to dancehall should listen to this peops productions to understand, or they should listen old lenky's production :-D ...

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08-17-2003
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cringer cringer is offline
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i'm a big fan of Ruben...at least i think that's his name.

08-17-2003
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ShadowNINku ShadowNINku is offline
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the person who does dean paul's beats is the same as anyone else in ragga...sean paul does mix them up a bit and make them hotter though...his flow is nice too
to diwali he added a "wooh" in the back and I think a turkish horn in the back..thats what made his version hot..
like glue had no changes done to the "buy out" riddim but it's a hot riddim on its own
listen to any songs on the "time travel " riddim and it sounds ok to good even elephant's(elly can make ok riddims into hot songs just like S.P.) track but you put on the wayne marshal version and he (don't know if it was him or who does it) who added a piano and made it the best song on that riddim

so should you give credit to the dj when the riddim is mixed a bit?

08-18-2003
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Originally posted by ShadowNINku
the person who does dean paul's beats is the same as anyone else in ragga...sean paul does mix them up a bit and make them hotter though...his flow is nice too
to diwali he added a "wooh" in the back and I think a turkish horn in the back..thats what made his version hot..
like glue had no changes done to the "buy out" riddim but it's a hot riddim on its own
listen to any songs on the "time travel " riddim and it sounds ok to good even elephant's(elly can make ok riddims into hot songs just like S.P.) track but you put on the wayne marshal version and he (don't know if it was him or who does it) who added a piano and made it the best song on that riddim

so should you give credit to the dj when the riddim is mixed a bit?
the producer can tweak the riddim for each individual artist to accentuate a certain flow or melody. That is all.

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08-19-2003
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engineroom engineroom is offline
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that is a nice response cringer!

the only thing i would add is that the producers don't really send their beats out per se, usually the artists come to their studio (or a studio if they don't have their own) and voice the riddim for the producer right there.

Sending the riddim out to someone is a way to get end up hearing your riddim track on someone else's dub or remix (you'll notice that more and more riddims don't have instrumental versions available, even on the 7")

The producer originally responsible for really bringing Sean to the forefront was Jeremy Harding (2 Hard) with the Playground and Fearless riddims among others.
08-22-2003
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cringer cringer is offline
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thanks for the clarification Engineroom...i'm glad to see that most of the info was right, espescially considering the fact that i've never been to Jamaica and i've only met a few true Jamaicans, and never had much of a chance to discuss the culture and goings on of dancehall with them. all my knowledge is internet research...i guess it is good for something afterall
one thing that i don't quite understand, the soundclash. i think i'm confused about the rules of engagement and how the actual clash proceeds. if anyone can help me out on this i would much appreciate it.
oh and, what exactly is a "fassy", i have a clue...but i want to know for certain.
p.s. not too bad for a white guy, huh?

08-22-2003
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