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I just watched a "Best Guitarists in the World" video compilation on youtube and it got me thinking.. Because many of the guitarists on it didn't play anything complex (anyone average could play it) while at the same time, some guys like Malmsteen and Vai are totally crazy when it comes to advanced playing techniques, yet they suck at the creative department (i.e. no catchy hit songs). I understand that they're known for doing different things.

But what do you prefer? A catchy tune made up of three chords (or even three notes) or a crazy guitar solo orgy inspired by complex classical compositions.
And this applies to all other instruments as well.
02-20-2008
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I prefer a catchy tune

or in my case. a catchy funky bassline is cooler to me then excessive slapping and double tapping
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yeah i agree....save all the 1/32 note playing for your band solo...this never made for a good pop song. drum solo's or bass solo's provide no real benefit in the context of making appealing music.
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I'm a firm believer of less is more. I love santana because he is definately not on peoples top 10 list of a great player but he always plays something that is catchy and makes you want to hum the lead.

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yea I think guys like santana, clapton and others who solo when its necessary are great

because when they solo, it may not be the most technically difficult thing ever, it does evoke emotion

Crossroads best solos ever
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Ok, then we come to the question "How do you become more creative?"

In order to play faster, you must practice playing faster.
But to make catchier tunes, what can you do?

Victor Wooten (who, to me, is playing more complex than catchy) said that he's not necessarily better than others. He's just not afraid to go where the other people are afraid to go. I mean to do things in a way that is "wrong" by the established standards. In my experience, the greatest stuff comes in the form of mistakes. "Good mistakes" as some musician put it (I forgot who it was.. I think it was Moby).
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to make catchier tunes.

you must analyze wat people like. and you must experiment

you must figure out what your playing style is first, and figure out WHY you play like that.

then u have to look at guys like Eric Clapton, Santana, Jimi Hendrix, Flea, Dave Navarro guitarists and bassists that have such a mainstream appeal

then experimentation with your style and the knowledge gained
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CREATIVITY.. hands down.
But I look at creativity in a different way to what most of you are saying about mainstream appeal.

Someone earlier mentioned doing something wrong y the established standards. Thats exactly what I see as creative. You can make something very simple and catchy, but its not creative if its done before. If you creat a song with the following chord progression "G D C D" how the hell is that creative? Yes you'll prolly make a catchy song but its hardly earth shattering.

Sooo...
I'm not a fan of technicalities. Partially because I'm not that technically good HAHA. I listen to people like Dragonforce and jsut think there's too much going on for the ear to process. But I don't believe in something tooo catchy either.

I love Jazz guitaring because its complex, but in a way that is easy on the ears. It's not complex in speed, rather complex in chord progressions and strange voicings, eg. Gm11 chord or something crazy like that.

I wish somebody would build a bridge...

So I can get over myself.


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I listen to people like Dragonforce and jsut think there's too much going on for the ear to process. But I don't believe in something tooo catchy either.

I love Jazz guitaring because its complex, but in a way that is easy on the ears.
Totally agreed.

It's all very vague though and the lines cross. For example, this "easy on the ears" and "sounds harmonious to me" is really a question of taste. To me, at some point of my life Metallica sounded "harmonious", as in, they struck all the coolest chords and notes. But later it was funk and jazz, hiphop.. etc. There is no wrong, just different music that appeals to different people at different points in their lives. I mean, I'm sure there are people who think Malmsteen sounds catchy, it's just that these people are very few.
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Very true. Music is subjective. I still like crazy ass metal and stuff. I appreciate aything guitar based (except country). But as a guitarist myself, I prefer to take the jazz route based on the interesting voicing of chords.

Metallica Rox..! lol

I wish somebody would build a bridge...

So I can get over myself.

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