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I want to better my skills of sampling, is there a step by step tutorial or rules (which I know there is no rules) maybe I'll use the word
"guidelines" to follow on building your song from samples.. I have the Sp606 and Battery 3, for sampling purposes (I do have other workstations but the Command stations, some synths are not used for sampling, I use these for my leads, melodies and etc..). .So with just using the Sp606 and Battery 3 can someone help me out with advice..
Oh yeah I forgot to mention, I already looked at the Roland site/Sp-forums/NI battery sites and forums too..
Thanks
~T~
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1,140 posts, divorcingFP
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Na fam there aint no rules. do it your way. it wouldnt be hip hop if there were guidelines. keep practicing. the more you do there more you learn.
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Last edited by producingLC; 10-05-2007 at 08:25 AM..
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Thanks man
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Custom made videos for Cakewalk products, Motu BPM, Roland MV8000 (MV8800), Emu Command Stations and much more!
Music is a moral law,
it gives wings to the mind,
a soul to the universe,
flight to the imagination,
a charm to sadness,
a life to everything,
Plato 400 B.C.
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3,123 posts, Registered User
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1. record the sample
2. divide it into as many parts you want
3. play the samples the way you want them
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706 posts, Registered User
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I know some cats don't think there are no rules, but that really depends on what type a person you are. I personally have a standard about biting someone else's concept(if someone beats me to the sample, I'll leave that sample alone)... or they usually ask what another cat used in a song and then try to do another version of it using the same source(I see that as being lazy and cheesy). It really depends on your own set of personal rules and how you would feel if you had some cat come along and piggyback off your work.
Sure, I'll grab an accapella and make an original remix, but to take another producers resources, expose them and use them... and try to label that as a product of my own... is garbage to me, especially since I know how much work can go into finding something that hasn't been used.
Another thing is... you(generally speaking) may have passed on a sample source because you weren't 'feeling' it at the time... but when someone else flips it and makes it acceptable to the masses... now you want to 'jump' on it.(that's so lame) Just let it go.
So to me... there are rules to this game and I don't think to highly of cats who try to seek justification in sample stealing(play on words).
Don't think that "there are no rules to sampling" is a universal standard, because it's not and it's taken out of content(originally meaning... anything can be used, from classical to country... "there are no limits").
I only hear, "there are no rules..." being said amongst younger cats(no offense) and opportunist. Not everyone treats that lightly... and I'm one of them that don't play that ish either.
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Well, instead of just telling u to practice, which is extremely vague, I'd suggest for u to learn a little something about choppin up samples into beats, choppin up samples with precision, time-stretching, pitch shifting, beat-matching, and the structure of bars (ie time signatures and where down beats and off beats fall within a bar so u can place samples that you chop up into beats in the right spots when creating sequences with them). Anyway, if u search through some old threads, I'm quite sure u could find a wealth of information about these things.
But anyway, allow me tell u what my approach to sampling is. I like to chop up beats from various different parts of a song, timestretch them so they'll play in tune with the tempo that I set them to, rearrange them, and come up with a good sounding melody that sounds absolutely nothing like the song that I sampled from. I hope this helps you out some.
Last edited by RioSoul; 10-05-2007 at 07:30 PM..
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963 posts, "Shoryuken!"
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Not really "rules", but I'll throw these out there, some things I've learned/my personal rules when sampling:
1) Match your drums/percussion to your samples original speed. Not vice versa. Drums can be time-stretched pretty far without sounding overly processed, but melodies and instruments sound pretty fake even under moderate pitch shifting or stretching.
2) Drums have a pitch like any other instrument. Sometimes if a sample is in rhythm to a beat but still sounds off for some reason, you might try shifting the pitch of your drums up or down a half-step and see if that makes things gel.
3) Sometimes it's better to make a sample a "one-shot" and manually trigger it everytime you want it to repeat; instead of defining the sample as a "loop" and painting it across a track.
4) Record in MONO! Stereo Source = should be recorded as two mono tracks, to be played simultaneously (after all, that's all 'stereo' really is). Each channel (Left and Right) should get its own mono track
... I'm sure there's more... I just can't remember much else right now (I'm at work). Hope it helps...
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Patrik
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903 posts, aka Tha Thuurd
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how do i figure out my samples speed?
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263 posts, BOOTS!
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well you can manually count the beats. Time yourself for 15 seconds and count each beat and multiply it by four.
Thats 15 seconds x 4 = 1 minute
Therefore your beats per minute lol
i forget were i found that but it has helped me big time....
Last edited by JaySiks; 10-07-2007 at 10:01 PM..
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