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yeluhz strongs yeluhz strongs is offline
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What exactly does that mean? I hear producers saying they try to find legal loop holes to sample, is that just taking an unfamiliar melody of a song and sampling it? like instead of taking a chorus part everyone knows, they'd take a break point to sample?

Well, i'm just wonder wth makes a legal loop hole in a record.
07-10-2006
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guerrillafunk guerrillafunk is offline
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i was wondering this too, somehow michael watts is legally ok with screwing and chopping albums and selling them, how, i don't know. i heard it has something to do with the decibels and amount at a time or something, but it still doesnt make sense to me. i dont get why you can copy up to 5 words and you're ok and the 6th word is plagiarism, but you can't take a second out of a song... it's music, let the people enjoy it, what do you expect, america feeds off capitalism :-).
07-10-2006
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MadKhz MadKhz is offline
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From a remix-mag article from last year:

What are the loopholes in this new ruling?
The only way around the law that I can think of is this: Don't acknowledge the use of any samples if they are not recognizable. This is a dangerous, illegal approach, but if you have manipulated your sample to the point that it is completely unrecognizable, then it might work for you. Nevertheless, the laws are against you in this case. Another approach would be to have someone (even yourself) replay the sample. This will get around the sampling issue but will leave you open to a publishing issue called interpolation. There really are no clear loopholes; you just have to use your best judgment. Remember that the new ruling is based on a two-second sample of “Get Off Your Ass and Jam,” so regardless of how small the sample, owners of copyrights can — and will — come after you.



I think this is the loophole they speak of. Chop it up so much that they can't prove you sampled it.
07-10-2006
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guerrillafunk guerrillafunk is offline
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yep, everything, the courts, the music, everything is all for the money, no love for the music anymore, it's fckin sad.
07-10-2006
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eccentric1 eccentric1 is offline
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yeah bruah...it's called "riff/stab jacking" if you look at certain era's & genre's of music some of these so called " old classics " esp the popular sh*t was and has been redone by other artist on other rec comps plus folks always wanna do back then a live album and a studio rendition of another jazz,rock, or wahtever players melody...of course....( the legal loophole is this) if sam spade played a special melody in his band in 1959 the same " riff or piece " in a song that dave brubeck "modified" in the early 70's than what does that leave for you the young punk hip hoppin kid to do with these two pieces of music (legally) that have the same riff,stab,or unfamiliar piece or "change-up" in a song what else to jack it and say it was a common piece used in each song from that era and if used as frequent therefore declared almost and i say almost( becuz some peeps placed subsonic frequencies in they sh*t to tel if it's there;s or not) a royalty "free" sample and can not be vouched for by either party in the court of law.
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guerrillafunk guerrillafunk is offline
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you're my favorite poster simply because you cited dave brubeck. blue rondo a la turk anyone? that thing goes through so many time sig changes, try samplin that haha...

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jwhaatt07 jwhaatt07 is offline
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when I get a MPC,I'm going to be the sample king HA HA HA !i'M GOING TO SAMPLE FROM EVERYTHING THAT HAS AUDIO HA HA HA HA HA !
07-10-2006
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Flip Beats Flip Beats is offline
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Stick to sampling short segments, like part of a riff, a snare or a kick here. a trumpet there. throw effects on it, do pitch shifting, layer it and play your new sample or instruments on your keyboard.
its all about manipulation

One!!

Stick to sampling short segments, like part of a riff, a snare or a kick here. a trumpet there. throw effects on it, do pitch shifting, layer it and play your new sample or instruments on your keyboard.
its all about manipulation

One!!

Last edited by Flip Beats; 07-11-2006 at 06:07 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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yeluhz strongs yeluhz strongs is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MadKhz
From a remix-mag article from last year:

What are the loopholes in this new ruling?
The only way around the law that I can think of is this: Don't acknowledge the use of any samples if they are not recognizable. This is a dangerous, illegal approach, but if you have manipulated your sample to the point that it is completely unrecognizable, then it might work for you. Nevertheless, the laws are against you in this case. Another approach would be to have someone (even yourself) replay the sample. This will get around the sampling issue but will leave you open to a publishing issue called interpolation. There really are no clear loopholes; you just have to use your best judgment. Remember that the new ruling is based on a two-second sample of “Get Off Your Ass and Jam,” so regardless of how small the sample, owners of copyrights can — and will — come after you.



I think this is the loophole they speak of. Chop it up so much that they can't prove you sampled it.
thanks for tha article segment Mad
07-11-2006
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loopster loopster is offline
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im sampling anything and putting white lables out still makin money fcuk them industry btiches
07-12-2006
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