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..I don't know if this has been posted before, if so...I aplogize...but...
I just have to know something...
I know that clearing samples is very expensive...so how do you think that a producer like Kanye West really makes any money, when almost every song he produces..he has to clear the sample ? !
Can someone please educate me ! Thanks !
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1,458 posts, Registered User
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I do not know the ins and outs of clearing and how its done but apparently he's $600k in debt due to sample clearances on Late Registration.
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he is not 600k in debt for late registration, that is due to him using so many engineers all lthe musicans and all extra stuff he went over on. Kanye uses that one cat to replay the samples so he doens't have to pay that full sample cost. YOu can stil make money sampling you might loose out on publishing, but money can be made and for kanye and just. They almost guarntee a hit, just because of the name so they can command a high price
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who is that "one cat", and how do they ask for what type of "high price" .... ?
the price of the sample or the price of his "services" as a producer ?
Also, how is it that lil jon can use the same damn synth on almost every song he produces, and make money.
I mean i like the synth being used on like youngbloodz "damn" and "presidential"..but damn...every song ? !
i guess what works huh ? why change something that works.
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that one cat that replays his samples in ken lewis. With kanye doing that he skips one part of the sample clearing process. Kanye will make a beat. Ken lewis will replay the sample so kanye can either change it up so it sounds nothing like the sample or replays it so you can save some of your clearance money.
www.onestopbeats.com check out ken lewis.
lil jon was hot for a while, but look at his track record now. he does't have that many hits as he had over the past few years people go sick of the sound, but i'm sure he will reinvent himself. The industry is a very tricky business to learn you have to do a lotta reading to really understand the ins and outs of this
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Duke, I said apparently. My bad if its incorrect. I read enough trash on the internet.
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226 posts, Registered User
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lil jon was hot for a while, but look at his track record now. he does't have that many hits as he had over the past few years people go sick of the sound, but i'm sure he will reinvent himself. The industry is a very tricky business to learn you have to do a lotta reading to really understand the ins and outs of this
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Kanye has clout...that's how he makes money sampling... he still has to pay out of his publishing...
but look at it like this... as a producer he's takin 50% of the pie, he has clout and has proven he can push records, so I doubt he's giving up more than 10-15% of the 50% producer's side...
But here's where it's actually a good plan. He's still takin 80% publishing in his pockets assuming he didn't give anyone else co-writership..etc.
And in the industry, being in debt means nothing... artists almost never recoup. That's why publishing is so important... because you most likely won't be seeing royalties off album sales unless you push big units w/o a heavy production load... like Ye's first album.
But albums are for the labels... tours, features, endorsements...that's for the artist.
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1,721 posts, Idi Yahmeen
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You gotta also realize, there is no set price for sample clearance. Its negotiable. A hit song by a popular artist will cost more than an obscure soul sample, but its all negotiable.
Also, someone mentioned replays. Once you replay a sample, sample clearance goes out the window completely. You're now in the relm of mechanical royalties. Since mechanical royalties are etched in stone by the federal government, there is no negotiation process. You just pay the applicable fee, which is far less than a sample clearance fee.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ikemurda
You gotta also realize, there is no set price for sample clearance. Its negotiable. A hit song by a popular artist will cost more than an obscure soul sample, but its all negotiable.
Also, someone mentioned replays. Once you replay a sample, sample clearance goes out the window completely. You're now in the relm of mechanical royalties. Since mechanical royalties are etched in stone by the federal government, there is no negotiation process. You just pay the applicable fee, which is far less than a sample clearance fee.
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by replay u mean recreate right
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