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Originally Posted by Pase
Most people could do it in one shot for less than 50 bucks. A DVD can hold about 5000 mp3's and you can do them all as a compilation for 45 bucks. And your ass is covered.
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Can you really copyright songs by means of a data dvd like that or does it have to be an audio cd?
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8,672 posts, Bob Mf'in Two T's Smitt!!
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wait if you have a beat cd or dvd if you copyright it as a compilation are all the songs copyrighted individually?
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wait if you have a beat cd or dvd if you copyright it as a compilation are all the songs copyrighted individually?
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No. It will provide proof that the track is yours, incase someone steals your track...butIf you sell the rights (or license) to one of the tracks on the CD, you're selling the rights (or licensing the rights) to all of the tracks on the CD or DVD. There are no partitions with copyrights.
So that's why you need to copyright each track seperately. $30 for each track is expensive, but if you don't have the money for the appropriate protection, I doubt your tracks are worth stealing anyways.
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1,418 posts, Registered User
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No. It will provide proof that the track is yours, incase someone steals your track...butIf you sell the rights (or license) to one of the tracks on the CD, you're selling the rights (or licensing the rights) to all of the tracks on the CD or DVD. There are no partitions with copyrights.
So that's why you need to copyright each track seperately. $30 for each track is expensive, but if you don't have the money for the appropriate protection, I doubt your tracks are worth stealing anyways.
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It's $45 now...
And entire copyrights aren't typically sold...but rather licenses are given out...
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so wut about tracks with samples in them that are not cleared
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you must clear the sample first, if you intend to sell the ****, record lables will clear it if they **** with the track
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No. It will provide proof that the track is yours, incase someone steals your track...butIf you sell the rights (or license) to one of the tracks on the CD, you're selling the rights (or licensing the rights) to all of the tracks on the CD or DVD. There are no partitions with copyrights.
So that's why you need to copyright each track seperately. $30 for each track is expensive, but if you don't have the money for the appropriate protection, I doubt your tracks are worth stealing anyways.
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What? You copyright 40 songs on one CD, eventhough in the form you list each track individually.
Then you sell a track to Brittany Spears, you get your cash, and Jive records now has a License to use that track. But that same license ALSO gives them a right to that enire compilation???? WTF?
A) Why would they want to do that, when they got the track they picked?
B)How would they know that you had MORE songs on that particular registration?
C) Plus it seems UNLIKELY that they would even be able TO do that even IF they knew there were 39 more songs because for one...they would STILL have to pay you more money for the extra studio work. You would then have to bring in all those tracks to be broken down and mixed individually.
D)Plus they have no idea how those tracks sound, so why would they want to?
E)And since they're only licensing, YOU still hold the rights. Eventhough it's frowned upon, you can still License your tracks out to as many people as you like, it's your music. So even if a major label gets one of your songs out of a group of registered songs, you can still easily pick another song from that same group to sell and License to someone else. Neither label can say anything because you own the rights, plus it's not the same song.
I call bullsh!t on this one. ANyone can answer those questions, that would be great.
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Originally Posted by Agent F
My question regarding all this is that what happens when you are working with a foreign label? Like I live in Sweden, but a record label wants to press my stuff and whatever. What's going to stop them from just taking my stuff and going "haha, see ya"? Im obviously not this pesemistic about dealing with labels... just something that needs to be thought about. You guys mention 20 years and all that, but that's got to be just within the US. Even if you kill someone here in Sweden you don't do 20 years!
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Most countries will respect your copyright. I believe there are international copyright laws also. You just have to make sure. Although if you're a single person without sufficient funds it's hard to deal with everything on your own without a lawyer.
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What? You copyright 40 songs on one CD, eventhough in the form you list each track individually.
Then you sell a track to Brittany Spears, you get your cash, and Jive records now has a License to use that track. But that same license ALSO gives them a right to that enire compilation???? WTF?
A) Why would they want to do that, when they got the track they picked?
B)How would they know that you had MORE songs on that particular registration?
C) Plus it seems UNLIKELY that they would even be able TO do that even IF they knew there were 39 more songs because for one...they would STILL have to pay you more money for the extra studio work. You would then have to bring in all those tracks to be broken down and mixed individually.
D)Plus they have no idea how those tracks sound, so why would they want to?
E)And since they're only licensing, YOU still hold the rights. Eventhough it's frowned upon, you can still License your tracks out to as many people as you like, it's your music. So even if a major label gets one of your songs out of a group of registered songs, you can still easily pick another song from that same group to sell and License to someone else. Neither label can say anything because you own the rights, plus it's not the same song.
I call bullsh!t on this one. ANyone can answer those questions, that would be great.
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A) Who said they have a right to your catalog? They have a right to a single song, not your catalog. Whatever else you copyrighted with that work is not a factor at all. It doesn't matter what else you also copyrighted, you are dealing with you selling a license, this has nothing to do with your copyright.
B) They don't know, they don't need to know at all. That's not their business and they likely won't care.
C) That's not a factor, they're interested in one song, not all the other songs. They won't even know about the other songs.
D) Irrelevant also. But if they have the different tracks they make things sound how they want and that's their business, you have no say if you sold them a license to your work. The only time is matter is if they altered your work to the point were you feel you were made to look bad, then you can take them to court for that.
E) The label will likely want an exclusive license, which means you can't sell the track to anyone else. But likely, if you're not known and have no lawyer/management they won't want a license, they will want to purchase the work outright. At this point, either you sell or they look for the next person, unless they really really really like what you have.
Many of you seem very paranoid and that Dr. Dre is going to get a hold of your demo and steal your work. Also, if a local artist steals your music, you take them to court, you're not going to get a lot of money out of it. Most you'll likely get is a cut of every sale, which is not a lot for most indies. It's best to deal man to man and get cash up front. If a big label in fact stole your work, then that's a different story. If you're actively shopping around serious and good material, the copyright is very much worth it.
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Many of you seem very paranoid and that Dr. Dre is going to get a hold of your demo and steal your work.
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Um, no. Thanx for trying to answer those but perhaps you should take a look at the post I quoted from. I was'nt making assumpions out of thin air. BigFlip84 made a clear statement saying "If license a song from the compilation, they have rights to ALL the songs". My A,B,C,D, & E questions were in response to that. I honeslty am interested in what Kid848 has to say about the issue, since he did'nt dispute it, and has also said he copyrights entire catalogs.
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D) Irrelevant also. But if they have the different tracks they make things sound how they want and that's their business, you have no say if you sold them a license to your work. The only time is matter is if they altered your work to the point were you feel you were made to look bad, then you can take them to court for that.
E) The label will likely want an exclusive license, which means you can't sell the track to anyone else. But likely, if you're not known and have no lawyer/management they won't want a license, they will want to purchase the work outright. At this point, either you sell or they look for the next person, unless they really really really like what you have.
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D) That's not what I meant, I meant why would they want to enforce their license to ALL of your songs to which they have no idea how they sound?
E)Also not what I meant, I meant in terms of the catalog. Even IF they could enforce having rights to your entire catalog, you still own the rights, and can still sell other tracks from the catalog since they're only using 1 of 40. Even if the License DID cover the enire compilation, how would they even know your pulling songs from "thier" newly aquired license and selling to other people without hearing all the songs first and having a copy of them?
I understand if you sell the rights, thats a diferent story. But for a License? I never heard that. The way I see it, if you lable every track, this should'nt be a problem even on a technical contract level.
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so does that i make 24 beats send it as a compilation to the library of congress to be copywritten ....and then i can choose 7 out of the 24 beats that was copywritten to someone or to a label as a demo...ARE the 7 beats covered in the copywright or do i have to copywright that demo separately????
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