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hi...
i'm confused about parallel fifths...

the defination of parallel motion--

Parallel motion - the two voices move in the same direction by the same interval ..

all the theory sites i have found show an example for parallel motion as-


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......................
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.......................
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......................A
---.G------------------
.......................
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...................D....

.C-- ---- ----

where the interval is a major second and the direction is the same..

so far i have been using chord progressions like EX : 1 - 4
(in c maj)

C E G (1) to F A C (4)

isnt this also parallel motion ??
C G and F C are parallel fifths right?? same direction(parallel),same interval(fifths)..


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......................
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......................C
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.......................
---.G------------------
...................F....
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C--- ---- --- ---

What happens when there is also a third.. the full triad in (close)root position..is it still called a parallel fifth between the root and fifth?

so a chord progression 2-5-1

D F A - G B D - C E G

should be used as inversions to avoid parallel fifths???

D F A -- D G B(second inversion) --
C E G

do parallel fifths occur in circle progressions or only in progressions of seconds(like the first illustration)


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Parallel motion is when two voices (vertical on the staff) form a given interval in relation to each other (eg a 5th), then move to the same interval (a 5th) in a different pitch.

So:

G C
C F

is parallel motion, in this case parallel 5ths, since you have a 5th (CG) followed by a 5th (FC).

When you add the 3rd, you're adding parallel movement, but in the form of parallel 3rds, with a major on the bottom and a minor on the top (CE, EG to FA, AC)

As a general rule of thumb, parallel movement is avoided (particularly parallel 5ths) simply because it sounds "boring." But any rule, especially in music, can be broken on ocassion if it's right for the moment. Do what sounds best to you, just don't go overboard...

Hope this helps...


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thank you.... this info helped....


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sorry to be the anal freak but wasn't the example in parallel fourths ? please correct me if im wrong

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The example shows the notes as if on a stave (ie staff paper). When "spelling" a chord, you generally work from the bottom up, so the example shows the interval of a 5th, C to G.

(In the key of C, CDEFG=12345, thus G is the 5th, thus C to G is the interval of a 5th)

Parallel motion refers to one vertical interval (CG) to another (FC) and has nothing to do with horizontal (eg C to F).

Think of two separate voices, one singing C to F (the lower pitches) and the other singing G to C (the higher tones). Because the two voices create a 5th with each other, then another 5th with each other, it is parallel 5ths.


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oh I see ... thanks !

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