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Lil Wayne quote from MTV:

"I don't like to do real songs on there (mixtapes), 'cause the producers be wanting their money. So I just do sh-- that's already out."

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/11/02/l...e-no-ceilings/


So the question I ask to the producer community is do you think a producer should be paid for placing an original track that is being used on a free promotional-only mixtape?

This is a very important issue facing the producer community considering the growing trend for artists (especially in the hip hop genre) to drop free mixtapes containing some if not mostly new original music which is filling in the void in the retail album sector which is rapidly vanishing

Lets talk about it...

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I was talkin to my dude today.... producers dont get paid on the mixtape circuit, period...

thats how they come up..
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nice topic... I think that in those situations it's up to the parties to decided how to best profit from the production in question. If you are treating mixtapes as albums with no sales then, my suggestion would be to direct the traffic/promotion from that mixtape to future projects most likely singles. So if you offer an internet low quality mixtape, sell the best songs from that tape in high quality... the singles and that profit should go both to the producer and artist.. just an idea
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lol i wouldn't care about profits right now when I have an opportunity to be noticed with some big cats in the industry. Once I come up and ppl see im working with wayne or w.e they'll holla at me and real biz can start. And even if it aint about profits, at least u feel good cuz you got a big artist rapping on ur beat lmao

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If it's promo only for the artist, it should be promo only for the producer. The artist is dropping original material also.

I don't understand somebody paying for something they have to release for free... Wayne has a point.

Make Wayne's album... then you'll get paid.

but... Wayne is going to do shows with his buzz... producers can't. Other people can loop that producers beat, nobody is going to spit Waynes rhymes again.

I guess if Wayne wanted the producer to take the beat off of the market, I guess the producer should be asked to get paid. If not, the producer could keep the beat up for sale I guess... a beat made popular by Wayne... but I doubt if anybody will buy it after somebody has already used it.

Producer's lose...

There are enough songs out that nobody has to pay if they just wanted to rap over something though.

Remember, rappers care more about raps than they do beats... as long as they get to flex how nice they are... the beat is secondary in their mind. That's why Wayne said what he said.

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Mixtapes SHOULD = $ for producers

these are the things that lead to more show money, a deal etc things that make money the producer will never see. The producer gains almost nothing other than a story to tell their kids. It's great for the résumé but most times it doesn't lead to anything else. The artist gains something from nothing and the producers should get a couple hundred per track
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Originally Posted by biggrome View Post
Wayne is going to do shows with his buzz... producers can't. .
THAT right there is the key point! Keep in mind the labels have most of these artists tied up in 360 deals so they're cool with it as well because they're still getting paid. The online sites are getting paid off the traffic generated off of the free music in ad sales.
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Originally Posted by nrjetik View Post
lol i wouldn't care about profits right now when I have an opportunity to be noticed with some big cats in the industry. Once I come up and ppl see im working with wayne or w.e they'll holla at me and real biz can start. And even if it aint about profits, at least u feel good cuz you got a big artist rapping on ur beat lmao
What if the producers are not credited on the mixtape (which happens often), what steps would you take to make sure your name gets out there in front of the song?
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Most people get mixtapes in digital form then burn them with no recognition of the producers name. The only people who know you produced the track are your friends lol
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Mixtape producers SHOULD get paid off of mixtape placements...

Yes, the mixtape is "promotional"...but that promotion is going to make the artist money in the long run.

Case in point, DRAKE. He got signed, got a national tour, all off of mixtape joints.


So the artist WILL get paid off of those promotional joints...what about the producer?? Nobody ever knows who that person is.


Promotion isn't free...promotion is PAID FOR. So mixtape artists need to PAY for the production on their PROMOTIONAL songs.

Unless the producer is given the same marquee space as the artist is, then pay up.


Wayne isn't giving away free "promotional verses" for producers, so why should he get "promotional beats"??

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