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What' up..
I have this problem that when i want to EQ something, i dont know on what frequency it lies on..I know about program ''Pengiun Audio Meter'' which is really cool, but he cant work with my sound card..so is there any other program that has spectrum analyzer that could work with my sound card (fast track - usb) ? 
thx advance
The sword is only powerfull as it's master...
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waves Frequency analyzer. am sure there are many free one out there...jus use google a bit more.
possibly u could take time and explore some text on the topic. if u know why u use EQ, then u will quickly go around the same.
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Originally Posted by bobby.diGital
What' up..
I have this problem that when i want to EQ something, i dont know on what frequency it lies on..I know about program ''Pengiun Audio Meter'' which is really cool, but he cant work with my sound card..so is there any other program that has spectrum analyzer that could work with my sound card (fast track - usb) ?
thx advance |
First of all, a "spectrum analyzer" does not tell you how to eq something... It shows you a "broad strokes" picture of what your audio looks like.
What you will generally see is a graph that covers most of the spectrum.
your audio covers a large and wide range of frequencies... Your job as a "mix engineer" is to decide which frequencies present in your audio should be boosted or cut.
You need to hear it... Not see it.
If you can't hear what you are eq'ing in a given frequency area, then you should not be playing with it... You do not say "hmmm, I see something here on the spectrum analyzer so I guess that is the frequency of my sound and I should eq it here"...
You need to listen to the sound... If there are useless frequencies below or above a certain point, you may want to cut them... But they may not be useless... Knowing this comes from experience and talent.
Just because you see a "bump" in your spectrum analyzer does not mean that is the frequency you want to feature... It may be a *bad* thing that there is an abundance in that range... Or it may be good... A graph will not tell you that.
You need to listen to the sound and how the sound interacts with everything else in your song.
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well, first of all, thx..and, i agree with every word you wrote, you just didnt completely understand me.
I first hear that some frequency should be boosted or cut, then i want to eq it. My problem is that i dont 'exactly' know which frequency i'm supposed to cut or boost, i know i should eq something but i dont know quite what, if you understand me
i would like your feedback once again, and thank you
The sword is only powerfull as it's master...
Last edited by bobby.diGital; 3 Weeks Ago at 02:43 PM..
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Originally Posted by bobby.diGital
well, first of all, thx..and, i agree with every word you wrote, you just didnt completely understand me.
I first hear that some frequency should be boosted or cut, then i want to eq it. My problem is that i dont 'exactly' know which frequency i'm supposed to cut or boost, i know i should eq something but i dont know quite what, if you understand me
i would like your feedback once again, and thank you |
So you hear a sound that doesn't quite satisfy you. Well, the first thing you should do is ask your self what exactly is wrong with it. To much highs/lows, not enough presence, getting in the way of the bass etc. By doing this you can narrow it down to certain sections in the frequency rang, then you can start to play with the EQ. You wont know if something is going to work until you try it.
Take a vocal for example...its not quite cutting threw enough, sounds good soloed, but a little "Dark" when put in with the rest of the mix. So you decide to cut some of the lows around 80hz, say with a high pass filter at 30db/octave. You noticed it made some room for the bass and KD but didn't put the vocals where you want them. You wanted more presence, so you add a Pultec from UAD and boost at 5K with a broad Q. You like it but you also wanted to add some air, so you pull out an Neve 1081 or 1073 from UAD and boost at 12K till it sound prefect when played with the rest of the mix.
This is just an example, without hearing the rest of the tracks you'll never know if the processing you've done will work with in the mix.
Last edited by Disasster; 3 Weeks Ago at 10:20 PM..
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Try using a parametric EQ w/ med Q and sweep around the freq range you hear what you need to boost/cut.
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maybe i should say this. the truest frequency analyzer is ya ears...er, the monitoring system. the plugin analyzers i think are there for confirmatory purposes and to me they serve as a learning tool.
if u are starting out, it can be a big help as it helps u confirm what ya ears are sending to the cortex.
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Originally Posted by bobby.diGital
well, first of all, thx..and, i agree with every word you wrote, you just didnt completely understand me.
I first hear that some frequency should be boosted or cut, then i want to eq it. My problem is that i dont 'exactly' know which frequency i'm supposed to cut or boost, i know i should eq something but i dont know quite what, if you understand me
i would like your feedback once again, and thank you |
I did tell you how to know *exactly* which frequencies to cut/boost...
...listen to the audio. Use your ears. That is how it is done.
The fact is, if you could simply look at a picture of your audio on a spectrum analyzer and know how to eq just from that, then there could be a plugin that would automatically eq your sounds for you when you press a single button... But, alas, there is not... And you can't.
Knowing how to eq (and mix in general) is a skill and a craft.
You need to train your ears and practice.
Listen to the audio... I mean *really* listen... And work with your eq and see how it affects the sound. The more you practice, the more you'll *get it*
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well, ok, i understood something from all this, thx guys..
The sword is only powerfull as it's master...
...one more thing about spectrum analyzers...
A spectrum analyzer shows you a visual representation of your audio as it exists. It does not tell you what should be different about that audio.
You may look at a spectrum analyzer image and see a bump at 2k... But it does not tell you whether that is a peak that you want or do not want... It does not tell you how to shape the sound to fit with your other tracks... It does not tell you whether you need to eq anything at all.
It is just showing you a vague picture of what you have.
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