Steffeh of course melody is also important..But even greatest melody can be killed by bad sounds..Btw you are wrong I am listening everything including Mozart,Rachmaninov,Steve Vai,Joe Satriani,Gary Moore,Dream Theater,Disturbet and also I really like Taproot and Alter Bridge..I am listening radio music too, maybe you think its cool to hate all radio music?I have seen Avicii in studio making dancing in my head and I know he was using presets but it was just a scheme.Final version sounds differently and much better..I have seen also Nicky Romero in studio and he was talking that his mastered and pre-mastered tracks soiunds the same ,only difference is that mastered track is louder.So it looks like its not a matter of mastering..I guess if there are choosen the right and quality sounds then even mixing shouldnt be so difficult..
Wapiti-you sounds like some 13 years old rude snotty kid...I was singing in a band and I am playing guitar too..
I was asking for help where can I find some good materials for learning and understanding sound design thats all.
And even the greatest sound can be killed by an improper or poor melody.
They need both to cooperate.
No hating on the radio intended, and I don't think it's cool to hate it, but I am pretty disappointed on todays radio world (especially when I hear how it used to be back in the days). And I'm also disappointed on people who only follow the radio (hence the "brainwashed radio worshippers"), and doesn't go on their own journey to find music.
As for the Avicii-thing, I'm sure he really tried to produce the song in the video with FM Mag, but was later on once again unhappy with the track and changed a lot of of the sounds. If he then switched presets and/or made some new sounds from scratch is something we'll never know I guess.
To be honest, if the only difference between a mix and a master is the loudness, then it's not a good master... I bet there were a lot more going on than just increasing the loudness (both processing-wise and thought-wise).
It's true what you're saying, good sound selection can mean easier mixing, but I personally would rather focus on getting an as interesting piece of music before mixing, than writing it so the mix will work as good as possible (though there are many different opinions about this).
My state of mind is that mixing will fix any additional issues from sound selection anyway.
But what I refered to, was that mixing shapes a lot of things in the sounds, and that can have a drastic effect.
Some tutorials may actually have successfully recreated a sound, but they don't mix them, so it still doesn't sound the same.
I've watched a tutorial where they successfully recreated a Porter Robinson patch, and boy half of the tutorial was the mixing part.
But yeah, there are a lot of tutorials in music production where they don't have a clue of what they're doing.
Anyway if you want to learn sounddesign:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzN89Rc_06M
Synth Secrets: Links to All Parts (the first article is far down, and it all goes up, so you don't get confused).
While reading, experiment with those knobs you've read about, and learn to recognize how they affect the sound.
P.S: In the future, remember that the title of the thread give others the impression of what you want to know, if you'd named this thread something like "Sounddesign help", I'm sure the focus of the thread would been a lot more about different sounddesign series and such.
