producers: how about non-dance music?

[The Scientist]

so lets start making chillout- the only thing you need is: 1. samples
2. delay

[kenan]

YOUR A COOL CAT MANO. RIGHT NOW IT KINDA SUCKS ( COMPOSING AN PRODUCING ) FOR ME BECAUSE I'M SO LIMITED IN EQUIPMENT RIGHT NOW. HE! HE! HERES ALL IM USING NOW: A BOSS
B-R8 8 TRACK DIGI. REC. THATS FOR MY GUITAR TRACKS. A PIECE OF **** CASIO KEYBOARD FOR PIANO, STRINGS ETC. AND, HEH! HEH! ACID DJ 2.0. BUT SEE I ONLY USE ACID DJ FOR MY BEATS. I DONT KNOW IF PEOPLE USUALLY DO THIS SINCE ITS LOOP BASED MUSIC, BUT I'LL GO INTO THE ACID JAZZ DRUM LOOPS AND FIND ONE THAT HAS A NICE KICK DRUM I SOMEWHERE IN THE LOOP THAT WOULD BE SUITABLE FOR MY SONG. THEN I'LL CUT IT AND PLACE IT WHERE I WANT IT. THEN I'LL FIND A HI HAT THAT SOUNDS MORE REALISTIC AND ANALOG OR A HI HAT LOOP INSIDE OF A LOOP AND PITCH SHIFT IT . THEN IF NOT IN THE SAME LOOP, A SNARE AND CUT, COPY AND PLACE IT WHERE I WANT IT. I'D FIND A THE ONE CRASH OF ONLY THREE AND PITCH SHIFT IT REALLY LOW TO SOUND ALMOST LIKE A GONG, OR PITCH SHIFT IT KINDA LOW TO MAKE IT HAVE THE EFFECT OF AN AN OLD "K" ZILDJIAN. AND AS CRAZY AND TOTALLY INCORRECT A WAY TO DO THIS, I'LL TAKE THE SNARE OR BASS DRUM AND COPY AND PASTE IT LIKE 8 TIMES TO GIVE KIND OF A DRUM ROLL SOUND; AND THEN FADE IT OUT CAUSE I LIKE TO FADE UP AND THEN DOWN MY DRUM TRACKS. IT GIVES IT MORE OF AN INTENSE AND THEN SOFT ENDING OR BREAK. THING IS HERES HOW I FADE THEM OUT. LETS SAY I'M FADING THE SNARE. I'LL TAKE THE LOOP THAT HAS THE SNARE IN IT, DOUBLE CLICK IT LIKE 8 TIMES, FIND EXACTLY WHERE THE SNARE IS ON EACH OF THE 8 TRACKS, PLACE THEM LETS SAY 1 SEC. APART FROM EACH OTHER AND LOWER THE VOLUME JUST A LITTLE LOWER ON EACH TRACK UNTIL ITS FADED. HOW FU**ING CRAZY IS THAT????!!!!!!!! I GUESS THATS WHY IM SAVING FOR THE MPC2000XL. I KNOW THIS IS THE MOST OFF TOPIC AND ANNOYING REPLY YOU HAVE PROBABLY EVER RECIEVED AND EVERYONE READING THIS IS LIKE WHAT THE F**K BUT THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER, LESS RETARDED WAY OF DOING THIS THAN THE WAY I HAVE BEEN. BUT IF YOU OR ANYONE WHO DOES'NT WANT TO SLAP ME IN THE HEAD CAN HELP THAN PLEEEEZZ, PLEEEEZZ HELP MY DUMB ARSE OUT. BUT STILL SOMEHOW MY BEATS TURN OUT EXACTLY THE WAY I WANT THEM?? ANYWAYZ (TO ANSWER TO THE QUESTION YOU ORIGINALLY ASKED ) I DO MAKE MORE OF THE SOUNDTRACK TYPE OF MUSIC. SOMETIMES DARK AND AMBIENT STUFF AND SOMETIMES MORE OF A BITTERSWEET, SAD SOUNDING BUT YET YOU GET A PEACE OF MIND WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THEM (AT LEAST FOR ME AND THOSE WHO HAVE HEARD THEM). I TRY TO MAKE MUSIC TO SET A MOOD FOR THE LISTENER FOR HE OR SHE TO ACTUALLY GO OFF IN THEIR OWN WORLD OF THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS. THATS WHY I MAKE INTURAMENTALS. SO PEOPLE HAVE ROOM TO HAVE THERE OWN FEELINGS AND THOUGHTS AND NOT BE SO BOGGLED (FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD) BY LYRICS. I DONT REALLY LIKE TO COMPARE MYSELF WITH ANY OTHER MUSICIANS, BUT SINCE THE FOLOWING THREE INSPIRED ME THE MOST I WOULD HAVE TO SAY FOR MY DRUMTRACKS: DJ SHADOW'S "BUILDING A STEM WITH A GRAIN OF SALT" OR UNKLE WITH THOM YORKE'S "RABBIT IN YOUR HEADLIGHT" ARE SIMILAR TO MY STYLE OF BEATS. SIGUR ROS AND **PELICAN CITY**HAVE ALSO BEEN BIG IFLUENCES FOR ME. DAMN, SORRY BOUT ALL OF THAT YALL. IT MUST BE ANNOYING JUST TO LOOK AT THIS REPLY YET ALONE READ IT BUT HEY, WERE ALL HERE FOR THE SAME REASON TO LEARN, HELP AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE LOVE... MUZIK. THANX AND PEACE

[KasioRoks]

Kenan,

Sounds like you're working really well within the limitations of your kit - remember that necessity is the mother of invention and that sometimes it helps to have limits 'cos it forces you to be creative. But please, please STOP SHOUTING. Typing everything in caps makes it really hard to read, especially in long answers like yours.


KasioRoks

[mrfreeze]

I went hard on the dance stuff for a while but I lost intrest pretty quickly. Mainstream dance/trance/techno - whatever sub-genre of a sub-genre your "into" - is for the most part quite boring. Every once and a while something cool will jump out and reinforce the fact that not all of it sounds the same, but really, alot of it does. I'm not too sure what style I do now. Still alot of electronic music, but not as much dance. If you want, check out www.mp3.com/mrfreeze or The Razorwave Project
Cheers,
Mike