Can any person sing ?

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I don't know if this is the right place to ask this but there isn't any dedicated thread for singing.I'm curious if being able to sing is something genetic where you need to have a voice capable of singing or can anyone do it with the right training?I can't sing at all but I wonder if it's possible to at least get to the point where you can sing basic melodies without sounding like a castrated dog.I'm trying to train my ear to recognize pitches/intervals and chord changes as my primary goal but I've heard that it helps a lot if you have some basic singing skills.In theory this sounds plausible to me.I don't expect to be an amazing tenor or something like that but I should at least be able to sing Marry had a little lamb lol.
 
Singing is a combination of both genetics and training. The genetics really comes in to your tone of voice, your natural pitch/range, ect. Training will really help your pitch, your breathing and stamina, the strength and projection. Basically in my opinion anyone can sing. Your genetics will determine the potential you have, but with correct training anyone can be a fine performance singer
 
I don't know if this is the right place to ask this but there isn't any dedicated thread for singing.

I'm curious if being able to sing is something genetic where you need to have a voice capable of singing or can anyone do it with the right training?

I can't sing at all but I wonder if it's possible to at least get to the point where you can sing basic melodies without sounding like a castrated dog.

I'm trying to train my ear to recognize pitches/intervals and chord changes as my primary goal but I've heard that it helps a lot if you have some basic singing skills.

In theory this sounds plausible to me.

I don't expect to be an amazing tenor or something like that but I should at least be able to sing Marry had a little lamb lol.

now that I can read your post (no spaces between sentences and lots of dense text make it difficult to read...)

Singing is something that everyone can do with exception perhaps of mutes and those who are profoundly deaf.

Singing well is always about practice and application, learning how the whole singing mechanism from diaphragm control and breathing to resonance in the head and pitching the voice from the chest, the top of the head or the throat (not recommended unless you want to develop nodules on your vocal cords and possible throat problems later in life) works is key to developing a good singing voice.

Learning to hear pitching issues and being able to fix them as you sing is also a key part of singing well - most folks who say they can't sing have not bothered to try to actually listen to what they are singing and what they should be singing, end result, they do not sing in tune and so think that they cannot sing

So, when listening to these other exercises, you should automatically start singing along - pitch accuracy comes with attention to detail, which means listening and duplicating and correcting as needed.

Singing is a combination of both genetics and training. The genetics really comes in to your tone of voice, your natural pitch/range, ect. Training will really help your pitch, your breathing and stamina, the strength and projection. Basically in my opinion anyone can sing. Your genetics will determine the potential you have, but with correct training anyone can be a fine performance singer

I have to disagree about your claim that genetics has anything at all to do with it - yes, if born into a family of singers, there should be a reasonable expectation that someone should be able to sing.

However, it is the same as any other skill - aptitude is only part of the formula for being successful, a far more important part is the willingness of the individual to study and practice to acquire the necessary control of the skill to become outstanding: a natural athlete may be able to coast for the first 15 or so years of their life, but then, those who work hard at honing their skills will begin to show this athlete up.

A short anecdote - I was 30 something when I took up soccer (football, but most folks misinterpret what that means) and lacked some basic skills - I did it for the exercise more than anything else. At the start of one training season some new members of the club decided to test the old fat guy out and all had a comeuppance because they thought because I was fat I was stupid or inattentive - not one got the ball past me. Finally one of them asked why I wasn't falling for all the fancy moves - my reply was very simple - I wasn't watching your hips or your shoulders, I was more interested in where your feet were and how you were controlling the ball; i.e. natural ability will not beat an old hand or one that has practiced the skills to the point where they are not only mastered but are second nature, just as the natural athletes ability is.

The same is true of musicians, without practice no-one can sustain a constantly improving high level of performance and skill, at some point the natural will plateau, whilst the slogger (someone who puts in the hard work and practice to master the skills) will continue to improve and eventually outshine the natural

this could easily turn into yet another debate about nature vs nurture - innate skill vs learned skill, but it shouldn't as we are likely to come to the same cyclic debate with the end result being a variation on this:

Gift vs TalentPracticeDo nothing
Natural ability
aka gift
Outstanding performance
1
Gifted performance
3
Regular guy
aka talent
Talented performance
2
p1ss poor performance
4

The numbers reference the quality of the performances against the gifted person who also works at mastering their skills as 1 and all others in decreasing order; there is no suggestion that we will see this particular result for all persons who are graded, but it is indicative of those who survive on gift versus those who survive by sheer hard work
 
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now that I can read your post (no spaces between sentences and lots of dense text make it difficult to read...)

Singing is something that everyone can do with exception perhaps of mutes and those who are profoundly deaf.

Singing well is always about practice and application, learning how the whole singing mechanism from diaphragm control and breathing to resonance in the head and pitching the voice from the chest, the top of the head or the throat (not recommended unless you want to develop nodules on your vocal cords and possible throat problems later in life) works is key to developing a good singing voice.

Learning to hear pitching issues and being able to fix them as you sing is also a key part of singing well - most folks who say they can't sing have not bothered to try to actually listen to what they are singing and what they should be singing, end result, they do not sing in tune and so think that they cannot sing

So, when listening to these other exercises, you should automatically start singing along - pitch accuracy comes with attention to detail, which means listening and duplicating and correcting as needed.



I have to disagree about your claim that genetics has anything at all to do with it - yes, if born into a family of singers, there should be a reasonable expectation that someone should be able to sing.

However, it is the same as any other skill - aptitude is only part of the formula for being successful, a far more important part is the willingness of the individual to study and practice to acquire the necessary control of the skill to become outstanding: a natural athlete may be able to coast for the first 15 or so years of their life, but then, those who work hard at honing their skills will begin to show this athlete up.

A short anecdote - I was 30 something when I took up soccer (football, but most folks misinterpret what that means) and lacked some basic skills - I did it for the exercise more than anything else. At the start of one training season some new members of the club decided to test the old fat guy out and all had a comeuppance because they thought because I was fat I was stupid or inattentive - not one got the ball past me. Finally one of them asked why I wasn't falling for all the fancy moves - my reply was very simple - I wasn't watching your hips or your shoulders, I was more interested in where your feet were and how you were controlling the ball; i.e. natural ability will not beat an old hand or one that has practiced the skills to the point where they are not only mastered but are second nature, just as the natural athletes ability is.

The same is true of musicians, without practice no-one can sustain a constantly improving high level of performance and skill, at some point the natural will plateau, whilst the slogger (someone who puts in the hard work and practice to master the skills) will continue to improve and eventually outshine the natural

this could easily turn into yet another debate about nature vs nurture - innate skill vs learned skill, but it shouldn't as we are likely to come to the same cyclic debate with the end result being a variation on this:

Gift vs Talent
Practice
Do nothing
Natural ability
aka gift
Outstanding performance
1
Gifted performance
3
Regular guy
aka talent
Talented performance
2
p1ss poor performance
4

The numbers reference the quality of the performances against the gifted person who also works at mastering their skills as 1 and all others in decreasing order; there is no suggestion that we will see this particular result for all persons who are graded, but it is indicative of those who survive on gift versus those who survive by sheer hard work


I 100% agree. I was more saying that genetics will determine how you sound. Barry White will never be able to hit the same high notes as Whitney Houston no matter how much training is involved
 
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