Setting A Sexy Mood

ThunderDan

ThunderDan

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I've got the whole spooky thing down, I've got the happy thing down, I can do uplifting all day but when it comes to time to try to make some baby making music I get stuck. Can theory help with this? Is there a mode or scale that would be more useful to getting this type of sound?
 
Some examples of what you consider to be baby-making music would help me analyse and provide you with some custom insights.

Some initial thoughts though are based on observations of Isaac Hayes' music ala Shaft

Instrumentation:
Guitars
Bass
Electric Piano
Saxes,
Trumpets,
Trombones,
Strings

Early trap style chording: Em[sup]7[/sup]-F[sup]Maj7[/sup] and reversed F[sup]Maj7[/sup]-Em[sup]7[/sup]

Some written examples soon
 
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Stuff from that era like "in between the sheets" by the isley brothers....and early r kelly type stuff like "bump and grind"
 
bandcoach said:
Some examples of what you consider to be baby-making music would help me analyse and provide you with some custom insights.

Some initial thoughts though are based on observations of Isaac Hayes' music ala Shaft

Instrumentation:
Guitars
Bass
Electric Piano
Saxes,
Trumpets,
Trombones,
Strings

Early trap style chording: Em[SUP]7[/SUP]-F[SUP]Maj7[/SUP] and reversed F[SUP]Maj7[/SUP]-Em[SUP]7[/SUP]

Some written examples soon
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Use the instrumentation described by this guy. Ever listened to Alisha keys when she rights those "sexy" moody love songs? Try that.
 
Sounds like the what Maroon 5 used to do and Jamiroquai - too easy, some insights to the sexy mood coming soon.....
 
ThunderDan said:
Stuff from that era like "in between the sheets" by the isley brothers....and early r kelly type stuff like "bump and grind"
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I can dig it, but I kinda think there's a gap in those styles (maybe i have an Isley bias). Anyway, it will be interesting to see how the coach breaks it down.
 
So, Isley Brothers "Between the sheets" 1st 16 bars



So I don't seldom get it wrong, but when I do, I like to correct the record as soon as I can

Progression is slightly more interesting and slightly more complex

F[sup]maj9[/sup] - E[sup]7b9[/sup] -Am[sup]9[/sup] - Am[sup]7[/sup] - Gm[sup]9[/sup] - Gm[sup]9[/sup]/C - F[sup]maj9[/sup] - E[sup]7b9[/sup] -Am[sup]9[/sup] - Am[sup]7[/sup] - Gm[sup]9[/sup] - Gm[sup]9[/sup]/C - Bm[sup]7b5[/sup] - E[sup]7b9#5[/sup] -Am[sup]9[/sup] - Am[sup]7[/sup] - Gm[sup]9[/sup] - Gm[sup]9[/sup]/C - Bm[sup]7b5[/sup] - E[sup]7b9#5[/sup] then the lick

B-A-B-C-D in octaves

ChordTones
F[sup]maj9[/sup]F-A-C-E-G
E[sup]7b9[/sup]E-G[sup]#[/sup]-B-D-F
E[sup]7b9#5[/sup]E-G[sup]#[/sup]-B[sup]#[/sup]-D-F
Am[sup]9[/sup]A-C-E-G-B
Am[sup]7[/sup]A-C-E-G
Gm[sup]9[/sup]G-B[sup]b[/sup]-D-F-A
Gm[sup]9[/sup]/CG-B[sup]b[/sup]-D-F-A with a C in the bass
Bm[sup]7b5[/sup]B-D-F-A

E[sup]7b9[/sup] is very similar to G[sup]#o7[/sup], just add an E....

And there was very little to distinguish between the F[sup]maj7[/sup] and the C[sup]maj7[/sup] I thought I heard (not even an A in the chord played, so it could have been either)

Middle section is

Dm[sup]9[/sup] - G[sup]9sus4[/sup] - C[sup]maj9[/sup] - Am[sup]7[/sup] - Bm[sup]7b5[/sup] - E[sup]7b9#5[/sup] - Am[sup]7[/sup] - Dm[sup]9[/sup] - G[sup]9sus4[/sup] - C[sup]maj9[/sup] - Am[sup]7[/sup] - Bm[sup]7b5[/sup] - E[sup]7b9#5[/sup] - then the lick

ChordTones
Dm[sup]9[/sup]D-F-A-C-E
G[sup]9sus4[/sup]G-C-D-F-A
C[sup]maj9[/sup]C-E-G-B-D
Am[sup]7[/sup]A-C-E-G
Bm[sup]7b5[/sup]B-D-F-A
E[sup]7b9#5[/sup]E-G[sup]#[/sup]-B[sup]#[/sup]-D-F

End section is a bit strange, but is something like F[sup]maj9[/sup] - G[sub]/A[/sub] - F[sup]maj9[/sup] - Em[sup]7[/sup] - D[sub]/E[/sub] - F[sup]maj9[/sup] - G[sub]/A[/sub] - F[sup]maj9[/sup] - F[sup]maj9[/sup] - Am[sup]7[/sup]

ChordTones
F[sup]maj9[/sup]F-A-C-E-G
G[sub]/A[/sub]G-B-D with an A in the bass
Em[sup]7[/sup]E-G-B-D
D[sub]/E[/sub]D-F[sup]#[/sup]-A with an E in the bass
Am[sup]7[/sup]A-C-E-G


the F[sup]maj9[/sup] has a grace note E going to the F in the bass
enjoy

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Bump and Grind

Chords -

Intro
F[sup]maj9[/sup] - Cm[sup]7[/sup] - Cm[sup]7[/sup][sub]/F[/sub] - B[sup]9b5[/sup] - B[sup]bmaj9[/sup] - Am[sup]7[/sup] - Gm[sup]9[/sup] - A[sup]7b9#5[/sup]

Chorus/Verse
||: F[sup]maj9[/sup] - Cm[sup]7[/sup] - Cm[sup]7[/sup][sub]/F[/sub] - B[sup]9b5[/sup] - B[sup]bmaj9[/sup] - Am[sup]7[/sup] - Gm[sup]7[/sup] - B[sup]b[/sup][sub]/C[/sub] - F[sup]maj9[/sup] - Cm[sup]7[/sup] - Cm[sup]7[/sup][sub]/F[/sub] - B[sup]9b5[/sup] - B[sup]b[/sup][sup]maj9[/sup] - Am[sup]7[/sup] - C[sup]9sus4[/sup] :||

Bridge/Middle 4
B[sup]b[/sup][sup]maj9[/sup] - C[sub]/B[sup]b[/sup][/sub] - B[sup]bmaj7[/sup] - Am[sup]7[/sup] - D[sup]sus4[/sup] - D[sup]7[/sup] - Gm[sup]7[/sup] - B[sup]b[/sup][sub]/C[/sub] - Gm[sub]/C[/sub] - B[sup]b[/sup][sub]/C[/sub]

ChordTones
F[sup]maj9[/sup]F-A-C-E-G
Cm[sup]7[/sup]C-E[sup]b[/sup]-G-B[sup]b[/sup]
Cm[sup]7[/sup][sub]/F[/sub]C-E[sup]b[/sup]-G-B[sup]b[/sup] with a F in the bass
B[sup]9b5[/sup]B-D[sup]#[/sup]-F-A-C[sup]#[/sup]
Bb[sup]maj9[/sup]B[sup]b[/sup]-D-F-A-C
Am[sup]7[/sup]A-C-E-G
Gm[sup]9[/sup]G-B[sup]b[/sup]-D-F-A
A[sup]7b9#5[/sup]A-C[sup]#[/sup]-E[sup]#[/sup]-G-B[sup]b[/sup]
Gm[sup]7[/sup]G-B[sup]b[/sup]-D-F
B[sup]b[/sup][sub]/C[/sub]B[sup]b[/sup]-D-F with a C in the bass
C[sup]9sus4[/sup]C-F-G-B[sup]b[/sup]-D
C[sub]/B[sup]b[/sup][/sub]C-E-G B[sup]b[/sup]
B[sup]bmaj7[/sup]B[sup]b[/sup]-D-F-A
D[sup]sus4[/sup]D-G-A
D[sup]7[/sup]D-F[sup]#[/sup]-A-C
Gm[sub]/C[/sub]G-B[sup]b[/sup]-D with a C in the bass

B[sup]b[/sup][sub]/C[/sub] is really a substitute for C[sup]9[/sup] or C[sup]11[/sup]

[mp3]http://www.bandcoach.org/fp/audio/bumpNGrind.mp3[/mp3]



Of note in this piece is the triangle doing the LA 16ths: open-mute-mute-open-open-mute-open-mute-mute- etc....

Harmonically we can analyse this as

Intro
I[sup]maj9[/sup] - v[sup]7[/sup] - vm[sup]7[/sup][sub]/1[/sub] - #IV[sup]9b5[/sup] - IV[sup]maj9[/sup] - iii[sup]7[/sup] - ii[sup]9[/sup] - III[sup]7b9#5[/sup]

Chorus/Verse
||: I[sup]maj9[/sup] - v[sup]7[/sup] - v[sup]7[/sup][sub]/1[/sub] - #IV[sup]9b5[/sup] - IV[sup]maj9[/sup] - iii[sup]7[/sup] - ii[sup]7[/sup] - IV[sub]/5[/sub] - I[sup]maj9[/sup] - v[sup]7[/sup] - v[sup]7[/sup][sub]/1[/sub] - #IV[sup]9b5[/sup] - IV[sup]maj9[/sup] - iii[sup]7[/sup] - V[sup]9sus4[/sup] :||

Bridge/Middle 4
IV[sup]maj9[/sup] - V[sub]/4[/sub] - IV[sup]maj7[/sup] - iii[sup]7[/sup] - VI[sup]sus4[/sup] - VI[sup]7[/sup] - ii[sup]7[/sup] - IV[sub]/5[/sub] - ii[sub]/5[/sub] - IV[sub]/5[/sub]

#IV[sup]9b5[/sup] is a tritone substitution for chord I

VI is V-of-ii

rewriting so that we see chord V and any secondary dominants we get

Intro
I[sup]maj9[/sup] - v[sup]7[/sup] - vm[sup]7[/sup][sub]/1[/sub] - I[sup]9b5[/sup] - IV[sup]maj9[/sup] - iii[sup]7[/sup] - ii[sup]9[/sup] - III[sup]7b9#5[/sup]

Chorus/Verse
||: I[sup]maj9[/sup] - v[sup]7[/sup] - v[sup]7[/sup][sub]/1[/sub] - I[sup]9b5[/sup] - IV[sup]maj9[/sup] - iii[sup]7[/sup] - ii[sup]7[/sup] - IV[sub]/5[/sub] - I[sup]maj9[/sup] - v[sup]7[/sup] - v[sup]7[/sup][sub]/1[/sub] - I[sup]9b5[/sup] - IV[sup]maj9[/sup] - iii[sup]7[/sup] - V[sup]9sus4[/sup] :||

Bridge/Middle 4
IV[sup]maj9[/sup] - V[sub]/4[/sub] - IV[sup]maj7[/sup] - iii[sup]7[/sup] - V-of-ii[sup]sus4[/sup] - V-of-ii[sup]7[/sup] - ii[sup]7[/sup] - V[sup]9[/sup]

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so another song that was suggested was

Red Light Special By TLC

Different from the other as it is in 12/8; count 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 to get 4 beats that divide into 3 equal parts.

it's that whole neo-soul thing again.... Chords over a bass note other than the root or a chord tone; extensions up the whazoo; chords from outside the key to provide colour;

Chords are

Cm - B[sup]b[/sup][sub]/C[/sub] - Cm - Fm[sup]7[/sup] - x 3

Gm[sup]7[/sup] - E[sup]b[/sup]m[sup]9[/sup][sub]/G[sup]b[/sup][/sub] - Fm[sup]7[/sup] - Cm[sup]7[/sup][sub]/B[sup]b[/sup][/sub]

Cm - B[sup]b[/sup][sub]/C[/sub] - Cm - Fm[sup]7[/sup] - x 4

Cm[sup]7[/sup] - Gm[sup]7[/sup] - Cm[sup]7[/sup] - Cm[sub]/F[/sub] - Cm[sup]7[/sup] - Gm[sup]7[/sup] - Cm[sup]7[/sup] - Cm[sub]/F[/sub] - Cm[sup]7b13[/sup][sub]/B[sup]b[/sup][/sub]

Cm - B[sup]b[/sup][sub]/C[/sub] - Cm - Fm[sup]7[/sup] - x 3

Gm[sup]7[/sup] - E[sup]b[/sup]m[sup]9[/sup][sub]/G[sup]b[/sup][/sub] - Fm[sup]7[/sup] - Cm[sup]7[/sup][sub]/B[sup]b[/sup][/sub]

Cm - B[sup]b[/sup][sub]/C[/sub] - Cm - Fm[sup]7[/sup] - x 4

Cm[sup]7[/sup] - Gm[sup]7[/sup] - Cm[sup]7[/sup] - Cm[sub]/F[/sub] - Cm[sup]7[/sup] - Gm[sup]7[/sup] - Cm[sup]7[/sup] - Cm[sub]/F[/sub] - Cm[sup]7b13[/sup][sub]/B[sup]b[/sup][/sub]

G[sup]bmaj7[/sup] - B[sup]b11[/sup] - E[sup]bmaj7[/sup] - G[sup]bmaj7[/sup] - B[sup]b11[/sup] - E[sup]bmaj7[/sup] -

G[sup]bmaj7[/sup] - B[sup]b11[/sup] - E[sup]bmaj7[/sup] - Cm - B[sup]b[/sup][sub]/D[/sub] - C[sup]7[/sup] - A[sup]b[/sup] - Gm - Fm[sup]7[/sup] - Cm[sup]7[/sup][sub]/B[sup]b[/sup][/sub]

Cm - B[sup]b[/sup][sub]/C[/sub] - Cm - Fm[sup]7[/sup] - x 3

Gm[sup]7[/sup] - E[sup]b[/sup]m[sup]9[/sup][sub]/G[sup]b[/sup][/sub] - Fm[sup]7[/sup] - Cm[sup]7[/sup][sub]/B[sup]b[/sup][/sub]

etc.....

ChordTones
CmC-E[sup]b[/sup]-G
B[sup]b[/sup][sub]/C[/sub]B[sup]b[/sup]-D-F with a C in the bass
Fm[sup]7[/sup]F-A[sup]b[/sup]-C-E[sup]b[/sup]
Gm[sup]7[/sup]G-B[sup]b[/sup]-D-F
E[sup]b[/sup]m[sup]9[/sup][sub]/G[sup]b[/sup][/sub]E[sup]b[/sup]-G[sup]b[/sup]-B[sup]b[/sup]-D[sup]b[/sup]-F with a G[sup]b[/sup] in the bass
Cm[sup]7[/sup][sub]/B[sup]b[/sup][/sub]C-E[sup]b[/sup]-G-B[sup]b[/sup] with a B[sup]b[/sup] in the bass
Cm[sup]7[/sup]C-E[sup]b[/sup]-G-B[sup]b[/sup]
Cm[sub]/F[/sub]C-E[sup]b[/sup]-G with a F in the bass
Cm[sup]7b13[/sup][sub]/B[sup]b[/sup][/sub]C-E[sup]b[/sup]-G-B[sup]b[/sup]-A[sup]b[/sup] with a B[sup]b[/sup] in the bass
G[sup]bmaj7[/sup]G[sup]b[/sup]-B[sup]b[/sup]-D[sup]b[/sup]-F
B[sup]b11[/sup]B[sup]b[/sup]-D-F-A[sup]b[/sup]-C-E[sup]b[/sup]
E[sup]bmaj7[/sup]E[sup]b[/sup]-G-B[sup]b[/sup]-D
B[sup]b[/sup][sub]/D[/sub]B[sup]b[/sup]-D-F with a D in the bass
C[sup]7[/sup]C-E-G-B[sup]b[/sup]
A[sup]b[/sup]A[sup]b[/sup]-C-E[sup]b[/sup]
GmG-B[sup]b[/sup]-D
Fm[sup]7[/sup]F-A[sup]b[/sup]-C

In the following images, chords are only indicated the first time they are used in a section

[mp3]http://www.bandcoach.org/fp/audio/redLightSpecial.mp3[/mp3]







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