Need help creating EDM synth

[D'zBeats]

hey fam
so ive been trying to find a way to create this type of synth thats used a lot in EDM, dubstep, trapstep, and such
the problem is i dont know the actual type of synth it is so its hard to research it
from what i hear its def has a saw in there though (just a guess)
if anyone can help me out with a name or a direction to point me in i would greatly appreciate it

the sound can be heard in here around 1:04


and here around 0:30 this is closer to the sound i want to make


Thanks in advance

 

[bandcoach]

first is vocoder vocals

2nd is totally different, along the lines a saw siren

look both up for presets and design advice

 

[D'zBeats]

will do thanks so much!