uNDefineD said:
Believe whatever crap you want about me. You're just giving me a good laugh, getting heated up over a simple conversation on the Internet that in the grand scheme of things, means less than nothing.
...and
you can believe whatever you want about
me. I am not getting heated up about anything.
uNDefineD said:
"It is just plain rediculous to say that the quality of music or the commercial viability of music or how underground music is, is a direct result of it's simplicity or its lyrics being thought provoking."
No, I'm saying it's the other way around. God, learn some comprehension.
Let me translate what I wrote since
you seem to be having some trouble with comprehension...
There is very simple music with meaningless lyrics that is poppy and commercial and makes a lot of money... AND... there is very simple music with meaningless lyrics that is noncommercial and does not make any money. There are also other variations, like; very simple music with meaningless lyrics that is poppy in style but nobody likes it and it makes no money.
Just because a piece of music is very simple with meaningless lyrics is
not a determining factor as to whether it will be a commercial and financial success. (meaning:
simple music does not necessarily equal
successful popular moneymaking music)
YOU said (and this is a direct quote) "if you produce simplistic music, you've instantly gained a large audience with money ready to spend"
I say, if you produce simplistic music, it does
not mean you will instantly gain a large audience and you will
not necessarily make lots of money... Producing simplistic music
will not instantly give you a large audience and lots of money.
Why don't you tell me what I didn't comprehend... and
you are the one who started throwing the word "naive" around... tell me what is naive about what I said... tell me how it is "naive" to say that making simplistic music does not guarantee commercial success.
uNDefineD said:
"Anybody who thinks ... blah blah blah ... facets that it is."
*snort* Oh my God, you don't know a damn thing about me.
I never said I knew anything about you. All I know about you is that you said "if you produce simplistic music, you've instantly gained a large audience with money ready to spend"
...I don't need to know anything about you other than the fact that you made that quote... that is the only thing I was commenting on.
uNDefineD said:
Given your (frankly, worthless) opinions on this matter, I'm curious as to why you think bands like Dream Theater don't get commercial success.
First of all, you did NOT say "artists who make complex progressive music will have trouble breaking into the mainstream"... you said the CONVERSE of that (I'll quote it
again) "if you produce
simplistic music, you've
instantly gained a
large audience with
money ready to spend"
Now if you want to talk about Dream Theater in particular, I'll be glad to do that... John Petrucci (Dream Theater's guitarist) is my old guitar teacher, by the way...
There are many reasons why they do not have the popularity of a "flavor of the month on the radio or MTV" artist. This should not even need explaining, but, different artists make music intended for different audiences. It is not necessarily because of the complexity of their music that they have any particular size fanbase.
any metal band, whether it be progressive, thrash or simple will not have a huge fanbase because the general genre and the time period we are in.
Dream Theater is very popular for their genre... in fact, I would say that they have exceeded the expected success for a genre where they are not
trying to reach the mainstream.
Different
genres have different
audiences and the artist writes for that audience.
There are many more factors to attribute to an artist's "success" beyond the "simplicity" or "complexity" of their music.
And "success" is relative... a progressive metal band is not
trying to reach a mainstream audience like a "pop" artist is.
Why don't
you back up
your original statement by telling me why there are artists who make "simplistic music" who have not "instantly gained a large audience with money ready to spend."?
uNDefineD said:
And by the way, you seem to have the term naive confused with something else. "Cynical" is the one you want.
No... I meant naive.