How to make weird Trap Synths

[RuSty1]

Lately I've been super struggling with my productions. I cant get any Ideas down and everything I make I seem to not like it. So I started thinking about what I really want to produce and I've decided I really want to produce Trap music. I dont want to produce hybrid trap. I really like Baauer and Rl Grimes trap music. I think its a little more hip hop orientated and not so dubstep-ish. I like dubstep but I want to make music that I can like show my mum. I dont want to make filthy dirty music. I listen to that but its not what I'm going for.

So I've been going back and listening to all my favourite Rl and Baauer tracks (I listened to these guys before I started producing and I think they are probably a big influence on me and what might have got me into production). I don't want to rip them off but I do want to produce like them if that makes sense.

So my question/ problem is: How do I make weird trap lead synths? I don't want to make FM growl basses. I dont want to make those boring generic trap leads. I want to make cool horns and some crazy sounding cool basses that dont have that vocally growl style to it.

Ok so I know what I want to make but I just don't know how to make them because I cant really pin point what the hell they are. I mean if you want to make dubstep just learn about FM and how to use Flanger effects and flange filters to form a growl.

Obviously Rl uses a lot of horns which is cool but what about other crazy synths? How is it done? A lot of the time I try to make a track in this kinda of style (or any other style) It just sounds like a boring synth with drums and an 808 below. It doesn't sound like a song.

Below I have linked some of the tracks that I'm talking about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uhb83oo9_I&list=PLq5MBc6t6kbQCWFHYlldpSz2FsCywFE9L&index=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMbi65XibvE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHWxMVatWwE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgiyMpKBl28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1612_Y7N9x4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuyKeH8rYOg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz1CqHw35Bs

Most of these tracks above have like 3 things in the drop: The Synth lead, Drums and an 808 sub or some kind of sub right?
How come when I do this it sounds horribly boring???

How do they achieve this? Is it synth movement? Is it the melody? Is it the actual synth itself?

PS I use serum, I know sound design, yes I have RTFM, I have also learnt Massive, I know FM and how to use it and I know all about filters and I still suck at sound design lmao

 

[scrapheaper]

There's not much in common between the examples you've given so I'm going to try and give general advice.

The rhythm you play is massively important. Syncopate your lead a lot and have the drums mostly on the beat but also with some syncopated bits. There's this idea where you repeat a pattern which is an odd number of beats long in a 4/4 track, like a 1.5 beat repeat or 3 beat repeat, 5 beat repeat. Lots of these tracks use this in the lead then put in fills to make up to the full length of 8/16 beats before repeating again.

In terms of sound design, movement is really important. The most common ways to make movement are by automating filter cutoff and fiddling with the volume envelope. Using unison voices is also very common.
Consider also which octave you're playing the sound in, it can make a bit difference.

The formanty growl sound is not hard to avoid; as long as you're not copying a 'make this dubstep growl' tutorial you shouldn't have trouble not making it.

Hope some of that helps, I know it's a bit chaotic and disorganized but your question was also a bit chaotic and disorganized so I didn't really know how to respond

 

[RuSty1]

How can I write syncopated melodies? I'm not very good at detecting notes by ear but in the drops does the melody repeat a certain note a lot? Because when I write melodies I have it all over the place. Should I have more repetition of the same note to form a rhythm? I know how to syncopate my drums I guess, I dont really have a problem with my drum programming but I dont understand how I can syncopate my lead?

I use the serum LFO as a one shot and shape the volume of my synth rather than an ADSR envelope because it has more control so Ill fiddle with it some more and try other effects for movement. Sometimes I modulate the effects in serum to create movement (with the same volume shaping LFO envelope).

A lot of the time when I'm making a lead it only sounds good in one octave. Usually at C2 if that makes any sense to you? C3 I think is the middle I think? But if I go higher it sounds too thin and there is too much empty space between the lead and the sub. If I go too low it sounds filthy dubstep like.

I know its easy to avoid making a growl I just trying to say that most Lead bass tutorials out there that I've watched just talk about making growls and not trap basses like you can hear in some of the tracks above.

Also I'm aware that the tracks listed above don't have much in common but they are all trap right? This is my whole point, how do I learn how to make sounds like those if they are all so different but somehow in the same genre? Like I cant just type in "Serum trap lead tutorial" because its all too generic and boring.

Also I have bought some Trap serum packs and am currently looking through them and I still think they are a bit generic.

Thank you for answering my messed up question as well