Do you ever make 5 bar patterns? insead of 4 bars?

In dance music the emphasis is on 4 beats in the bar and therefore two or four or eight bar patterns (or larger such as 12, 16, 24, 32, etc.)

However in Art music (what most of you cats would call Classical Music (a very short period in music history [1750-1827], but it sticks nonetheless)) it is quite common to have 5, 9, 11 15 bar melodic phrases (Bach, Mozart, Beethoven all did this, to name a few).

Later composers came along and said phrases must be equal in length for beginning composers, to eliminate the problems of handling odd number bar phrases - there are issues in harmony and continuations. It was also roughly the time that dance music became popular with the new middle classes (mid-1800's) at large public dances (called balls at that time). When dancing any of the choreographed steps such as the waltz or the polka, you need to have an even number of bars so that dancers do not get lost.

From this time forward all dance music (pop, jazz, blues, etc.) has been composed to fit this pattern of predictable phrase length and tempo.

This has been translated into the approach we use in creating dance music today, even though there are no choreographed steps that the punters would use, we are stuck in the time-warp that we must provide certainty of beats and bars
 
You can have how many bars that you want. Where does it say that you have to have 4 per section? (or multiple of)
 
True innovators always break the "rules" because of course in true music, there are no rules, only convention.

If it sounded good, it worked. Nevermind the counting.
 
There are only rules when your talking traditional music and likely being assessed on it. Hard ass teachers lol

I made a 7 bar sound once that looped throughout the whole song. Made things slightly different when writing the lyrics, but different isn't bad either. I just had a 14 bar verses and bridge/chorus.

Good song though, helps open up your state of mind musically when you ignore boundaries
 
Like bandcoach was saying, the 4 bars is great for dancers and is extremely predictable. So doing something like 5 repeating bars kinda gets you 'lost' in the music. The way the producer used this in the example was really smooth.
 
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