2 Different Sample Styles Right Here!!

**MADMIXA the DJ** · 11-16-2007

The 1st track is a "feel good" track. Very Hiphopish and something you can play for your kids. It was constructed by using a snibblet of an obscur source(listen to it... most would've passed on it). I took that sound, sped it up, sampled it... then played it out like that of note on a piano.(using layman's terms... so, you music theorist can give it a rest)
I'm explaining this, just to clear a few things up. 1) anything is possible with sampling. 2) sampling producing doesn't mean "looping bars and adding drums". 3) don't be 1 dimensional.

EVERYBODY aka THE VIBE
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/defa...m?bandID=66695
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This next track was a little complicated... even though... at first listen, you realize the constant fluxuating bpm. That is a common occurance when dealing with older recordings(live musicians) vs. digital timing and additional "live" drum play. Look... I'm not a "drummer", but I knew what I needed and wanted... and I made it happen(which could mean individually sampling instruments... per note or hit... and playing them back on a medium that i'm comfortable with. I also had to 'tune' the cymbals, the snare, the hi hat, and a few more things... instead of relying on a preset sound.

IT'S THE SAME OLE STORY(a midWEST hiphop flavor on this one)... Enjoy!!
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/defa...m?bandID=66695

Critique, Feedback if you like. I'm just making a bigger attempt to assist, rather than to dismiss some of people on this site.

**prophecy31** · 11-16-2007

im feelin these man! especially the second one...i think of j dilla everytime lol. i might have to try these methods myself.

**DliMaX** · 11-16-2007

First one is pretty hot I guess. Feelin those drums for sure. Sample is straight as well

Second one is cool, cept for that weird noise...kinda ruins the vibe

**MuSickJunKeyz** · 11-16-2007

For the most part, i like them. Creative use of sampling on both of them. However the drums on the first one sound weird...i don't know if it was supposed to be a solo or something, almost sounds like your messing up. if it was a solo, don't quantize it, leave the human feel. And the mixing was good but dead, if you get what i mean. Try adding a compressor on the complete mix. Still good stuff. It also took me a good minute to figure out that that weird noise was madmixa. Good way to keep people from taking it.

**MADMIXA the DJ** · 11-17-2007

1st let me say, thankyou to everyone for responding.

Now, let's see if we can breakdown some of the details.
The 1st joint... the drum pattern is a combination of quantized and non-quantized programing. I used both to achieve two things... 1) to maintane a constant and accurate bpm regarding mapping my drums. Think of it this way... as a DJ... how would I be able to mix this with another song, without having the drums drift... even though the overall BPM remains the same? I quantize and swing(62%) to keep a steady track for that purpose. 2) Just as I don't restrict myself on sample usage... I'm not bound by... "universal" drumrolls or common breakdowns. I try to "experiment" or bring something unique to each song. Too often production talent mimics rather than "produce". It may sound odd at 1st, but at different volumes(earphones vs. monitors or home speakers)... there's a big difference... I don't critique using earphones, it doesn't help. The last thing regarding the 1st song is... when you do something different... the more you hear it... then it's no long different... it changes to innovative or common to the ear.(not in all cases, but you get the idea) Just think of NEO SOUL and the offset basslines that is often the signature of that genre. At 1st it was "weird"... but, the people caught the vibe... now, it's almost "the standard" for bringing out the "soul" of that genre of music.

The 2nd joint(musick junkeyz was right)... it features a voice tag. "MadMixa Productions". I know it sounds weird, but you have to be smart. If a pattern is set at 8 bars, setup a voice tag at increments of 6 bars of the song. I had to stop myself from over-producing. This is a story type track that needs room for an artist to grow into character... it's easier to complete when all the ideas and players are present.
Again, I broke "the norm" and used a 2 bar break(another song on my page uses a 3 bar break). I elected to do that... to give a unique feel to my music by changing the way people assume it's going to go(without being disruptive) and to allow the Emcee more time and room to paint their picture.

The best part of sampling... is breaking down and knowing what you're hearing... which can lead to further experimenting and can lead to "going beneath the surface" on these creations.
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Mixing... I would consider this... more of a rough draft. I prefer to handle the real detailed aspect on a setup that can handle my... "particular" demands. The mixing was done entirely on the MPC2000. I just dropped it on Cubase... using 2 tracks(instead of assigning each sound to a track)... I did that because of time.(not out of 'not feeling the need'). Time, understanding instruments(dynamics) and practice... can relieve some of the stress in mixing.
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Pick these tracks apart... we should be able to mentally visualize the audio that we hear. Videos can hurt you, if you haven't... developed the basics.

Keep this going... and provide examples that others can "see with their ears".

**A_Mad** · 11-17-2007

i like the second very much man...nice guitars
dope bass...

check my beat mayne

New Beat ....*****

**MuSickJunKeyz** · 11-17-2007

well i still hope you're taking my advice.

**MADMIXA the DJ** · 11-17-2007

Originally Posted by MuSickJunKeyz

well i still hope you're taking my advice.

You know it!!

**Pacin0** · 11-17-2007

Originally Posted by MADMIXA the DJ

1st let me say, thankyou to everyone for responding.

Now, let's see if we can breakdown some of the details.
The 1st joint... the drum pattern is a combination of quantized and non-quantized programing. I used both to achieve two things... 1) to maintane a constant and accurate bpm regarding mapping my drums. Think of it this way... as a DJ... how would I be able to mix this with another song, without having the drums drift... even though the overall BPM remains the same? I quantize and swing(62%) to keep a steady track for that purpose. 2) Just as I don't restrict myself on sample usage... I'm not bound by... "universal" drumrolls or common breakdowns. I try to "experiment" or bring something unique to each song. Too often production talent mimics rather than "produce". It may sound odd at 1st, but at different volumes(earphones vs. monitors or home speakers)... there's a big difference... I don't critique using earphones, it doesn't help. The last thing regarding the 1st song is... when you do something different... the more you hear it... then it's no long different... it changes to innovative or common to the ear.(not in all cases, but you get the idea) Just think of NEO SOUL and the offset basslines that is often the signature of that genre. At 1st it was "weird"... but, the people caught the vibe... now, it's almost "the standard" for bringing out the "soul" of that genre of music.

The 2nd joint(musick junkeyz was right)... it features a voice tag. "MadMixa Productions". I know it sounds weird, but you have to be smart. If a pattern is set at 8 bars, setup a voice tag at increments of 6 bars of the song. I had to stop myself from over-producing. This is a story type track that needs room for an artist to grow into character... it's easier to complete when all the ideas and players are present.
Again, I broke "the norm" and used a 2 bar break(another song on my page uses a 3 bar break). I elected to do that... to give a unique feel to my music by changing the way people assume it's going to go(without being disruptive) and to allow the Emcee more time and room to paint their picture.

The best part of sampling... is breaking down and knowing what you're hearing... which can lead to further experimenting and can lead to "going beneath the surface" on these creations.
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Mixing... I would consider this... more of a rough draft. I prefer to handle the real detailed aspect on a setup that can handle my... "particular" demands. The mixing was done entirely on the MPC2000. I just dropped it on Cubase... using 2 tracks(instead of assigning each sound to a track)... I did that because of time.(not out of 'not feeling the need'). Time, understanding instruments(dynamics) and practice... can relieve some of the stress in mixing.
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Pick these tracks apart... we should be able to mentally visualize the audio that we hear. Videos can hurt you, if you haven't... developed the basics.

Keep this going... and provide examples that others can "see with their ears".

i understand you have a science to it and all that but still the drums on the first are weird, but overall i liek both tracks

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