Old MTV news clip on Sampling from 1988

although people have been sampling for quite sometime it was the Biz Markie case that really put it in the spotlight by sampling Gilbert O Sullivans "alone again naturally"..Which Groups like the Cold Crush did routines off of back in the day Obviously before hiphop records.At the end I agree that the artist you sample should be recognized but this is a pratice that has gone on in hiphop since the beginning. As far as the dj covering up or soaking off labels so that when he plays the next guy wouldnt be able to know what it is.Thats how it started ...We went form sampling loops to sampling sound as time changed but the one thing that stayed the same is where the music comes from.Heck most of us couldnt even afford the equipment we have now back then and had to rely soley on records to make our songs(no sampling laws then LOL) as nobody cared about what we were doing.. in fact Time magazine branded it "JUNGLE MUSIC" and pictured a ape wearing a Kangol and carrying a box...thats radio for you youngins Funny I think he had on Cazals to...Fast foward to mid to late 80s when folks figured out how to make money off of it and there it was... correction here we are!!! same argument for the last 25-30 years..Never mind the whole Rappers Delight thing(as we know they had Good times re played) by some great musicians might i add. So in conclusion what are we left to do? Im guessing continue to put out MIX TAPES and stay under the 20,000 sold range or just use HARRY FOX or one of those agencys to clear the sound because i dont believe that SAMPLING will ever go away or not continue to be a part of MUSIC in general because as we know HIPHOP is not the only form of music that samples.. Wow if you were there this topic is really deep and it gets your blood boiling because most of the artist used at that time werent known to the Mainstream or certainly had no clue of of how thier records were being used... besides everything old is new again (but you still have to pay for it) or so they say....Man we can talk about this all night....
 
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SoundSplash said:
funny how 23 years later, this conflict is still at the exact same place it was in 1988
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So true.

The drum argument is a good one, quantumleap, I see what you mean.

I don't remember if I made the following up or not but I remember hearing about a change in intellectual property for visual artists; something along the lines of people having to pay royalties if you even LOOK at their paintings. It sort of makes sense and works when you think about music. Once you hear the music, you are essentially using it your benefit.

All of these bands saying that sampling is stealing and that its lazy and its so hard and creative to write a riff (really, Tom Petty, those records were hard for you?) need to understand that they only have that 'sound' in the first place because they copied all the other bands who came before them.

I don't see anybody paying Beethoven, Burgmuller or Diabelli for learning their classical tunes and I didn't hear about The Turtles shelling out to any French chanson singers they clearly bit for those magnificent 6 seconds.

Its so contrary.
 
great post!!! sampling will always be an issue... especially as long as im still makin beats!
 
The thing that annoys me, and I saw it on the video and it made wonder noone else commented on that, is the looking down on the situation where making music is not for specialists anymore. This guy said that "even litle kids can do it nowdays". So what? did someone gave the "exprerts" the monopoly of music making? And everybody else is forbidden to do some music just cause they want to? This elitism is stupid...
 
drugitiz said:
The thing that annoys me, and I saw it on the video and it made wonder noone else commented on that, is the looking down on the situation where making music is not for specialists anymore. This guy said that "even litle kids can do it nowdays". So what? did someone gave the "exprerts" the monopoly of music making? And everybody else is forbidden to do some music just cause they want to? This elitism is stupid...
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In context it was 1988 and at that time people didn't see hip hop as music in general so to them it was nothing but stealing. Sampling in this generation is part of the norm mostly because people were doing it before most of the members of fp were even born
 
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