Im a keyboard producer

[SpaceStar Ent.]

And im suckin at sampling right now, **** all the bastards who say sampling takes no skill, that **** is hard.

Im using a fantom S right now and i recorded some sped up vocals from my turntable from a classic 80's record.

Well i got that **** loaded up, its about a 8 measure sample, and i have it assigned to my keys.

So i record it into the sequencer and now i dont know where to start lol.

Its a vocal sample + the background music from the song (its classic rock). Im not sure what to go to next as far as instrumentation is concerned.

So gimme some tips guys as to how you manipulate your samples.

[JagoJG]

U can chop ur loop into to smaller sections and come up with ur own phrases out of those. Time every thing out in beats. 1/4=1beat, 1/2=2beats, 1/3=3beats, and so forth.

[fivestar]

chopping is the easiest way to minipulate a sample(of corse you can just loop it but thats not minipulation)

just cut the sample to smaller parts and make melodies with the sample its self

then add a bassline

after the bass is on it ll be easy to add other instruments, but not to much otherwist you'll kill the beat

[Xabiton]

sampling is easy once u get used to it. learn to loop first once u can loop u can chop ur loops into smaller loops aka chops. all sampling is based on looping.

[alphawolf]

get a SP-505 the best chop function ever you learn it in no time

[eccentric1]

very simple and getting use to it is the technique...other than that it's just keen "ear" when vocals its all about levels of a sample some drums fromt he original sample sound perfect to go right along with the melody of the vocal sample it's self ...alot of kats try hard to do the bass and the overall EQuing of a sample and lose the quality of the sample ...for the bass/background cut that up and spread it out of the arrangement of the song to create the effect of a full song. it works but taking the smaller pieces and divying them up into a complete new song ..plus delay/decay and attack work along with swing

[mista frieze]

Originally posted by Xabiton
sampling is easy once u get used to it. learn to loop first once u can loop u can chop ur loops into smaller loops aka chops. all sampling is based on looping.

Yes,Looping is an art,and even if u don't master it well,it'll make u a better keyboard producer because ur melodies will sound like loops.
And yes,ur ear will develop and u'll be able to take phrases and turn them into small loops.
Anyways,a phat loop with a few kicks is a dope beat by itself!!It's truly the foundation of sampling

[sonus]

Originally posted by Xabiton
all sampling is based on looping.

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[Xabiton]

Originally posted by sonus


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whats the question. All sampling is based on loops even if chopped for the pure reason that if u loop a chop its still going to come back as a perfect loop (if u chopped right)therefore all sampling is based on looping

[sonus]

Originally posted by Xabiton
whats the question. All sampling is based on loops even if chopped for the pure reason that if u loop a chop its still going to come back as a perfect loop (if u chopped right)therefore all sampling is based on looping

I wouldn't say that all sampling is based on looping. If you think about it, all of popular music is loop-based in some way. Everything from Rock to Trance, you have certain musical motif that runs throughout (the chord progression or the percussion, for example). Usually this elements are replayed in the formulaic order of the genre at hand.

You seem to be saying that the point of sampling in hiphop is to loop. I would instead say that the point of sampling in hiphop is to isolate the "best" of a certain song and to create something fresh out of it. Yes, oftentimes this results in a form of "looping", but as I've stated before, this is only because of the nature of modern popular music. You can of course be totally abstract and not use the sample in the same way twice during the track, but it probably wouldn't flow well to most of our ears.

Peace.