Working with vocal samples in reason.

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phalaris

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Hi everyone. My first post, so be nice :)

I've only recently started producing my own music, and I have a vision of exactly what I want to achieve. I love the use of phonemes in music.. sounds that are produced by speech, but ones that sound like gibberish (or "trippy" vocals if you like). Some fine examples are Underworld's Spikee and Unruly July; Mauro Picotto's Camera's Ready, Prepare the Flash; Autechre stuff like Basscadet and Silverside, and Aphex Twin stuff like Windowlicker and Flow Coma remix on 26 Mixes for Cash..

But it seems I've come to a bit of a deadend. I use Reason 3.0 because that's the first program I've been properly taught how to use. It's intuitive and comfortable and it's what I will continue to use. But firstly its vocal sample bank is extermely poor. Secondly it doesn't really provide the sort of tweaking that I want to do to various vocal samples.

So I'm thinking I should use another program that can specialise in this. I have a bunch of them lying around and I'm not sure which (if indeed, any) would be best suited. Among others:
Steinberg Cubase SX3.1, Nuendo v3.2, Cubasis VST v5, and WaveLab v5.01b..
Adobe Audition 2.0,
Cakewalk Sonar Producer Edition v5.0.1,
FL Studio XXL v6.0.4,
SAWStudio v3.8a,
Magix Audio Cleaning Lab Deluxe v10 and Music Studio 2004 Deluxe,
Sony ACID Pro Sony Sound Forge v8.0b,

Ideally I am looking for the best program/utility which would allow me to import a wav sound, tweak it with the most/best parameters and filters, and then export it as a .rx2 loop for use in Reason. The more I can screw it up, the better. Weird, alien-sounding voices are my thing.. It's pretty essential that it's a Rex loop, to allow for flexible pitch and tempo adjustments, and internal looping..

So perhaps if any of you guys have experience with any of the mentioned progs, maybe you can hint at which one would work best.

Otherwise I am open to all suggestions! I mostly make techno, but it sounds empty to me without a few phonemes..

Thanks in advance. :)
 
Well with DAWs sometimes u gotta have plug-ins so if u work with cubase or etc. u gota have plug-ins but what u might wanna try is using the NN-19 Or the NN-XT Try Those but i would go with the 19
 
DJ Echo102 said:
Well with DAWs sometimes u gotta have plug-ins so if u work with cubase or etc. u gota have plug-ins but what u might wanna try is using the NN-19 Or the NN-XT Try Those but i would go with the 19
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the problem is that I can't export it as a rx2 loop thereafter without ReCycle.

Also my Reason seems to be bugged or something, because it doesn't recognize wav files that aren't in refills. So any external wav files I am unable to open..

Not to mention the fact that the samplers don't give me as much flexibility as I would like. I am looking for the sort of tweaking that the Masltrom provides..

cheers fot the reply
 
yea but malstorm is not a sampler did u try loading samples in the sample tab cuz it should work in there but other than that recycle will turn wav. samples into rex or rex2 and oh yea like dj mish said try using the malstorm with the vocoder if not use the subtractor that should do it
 
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phalaris said:
the problem is that I can't export it as a rx2 loop thereafter without ReCycle.

Also my Reason seems to be bugged or something, because it doesn't recognize wav files that aren't in refills. So any external wav files I am unable to open..

Not to mention the fact that the samplers don't give me as much flexibility as I would like. I am looking for the sort of tweaking that the Masltrom provides..

cheers fot the reply
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why do you want to export the loop???
 
As I said, there's some bug with my Reason (it's a pirate version..), whereby it won't recognize external wav files. I've got the latest update I think (3.0.4).
Basically it will only load wav files (into any instrument) that are already in refills. Any wav files that are in a separate folder or whatever (stuff I've downloaded) are met with a message: "unsupported format".

It accepts external rx2 files though. So if I mess around with the wav files in a different prog and then export them as rex loops, then my dr rex can load them..

I have no idea what causes this, but I'm happy enough using dr rex, as long as I can make necessary adjustments beforehand..

Sorry if this is all a bit confusing..
 
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