I never seen E Digging and traditional as the same at all. I used to E dig thinking it was the same and it works until u can hear the difference at least for me. Not to mention that mixing mp3s just makes the job 10 times harder. Thats a big part of why I keep bringing up the sound. And I have always found the best samples talking to a store owner because in my experience few e diggers really know a lot of records and the ones that do usually have a ton of crates and only E dig stuff everyone has like BeeGees and Donna Summers. Just in my experience.word. i sometimes feel like although physical crate digging is very rewarding, saying stuff like e-diggers only get common tracks is inaccurate, because you can e-dig through pages of posts on a blog or what have you, ignoring the wack and common stuff and only downloading the good gems. that's how it was for me at least; i'd google an obscure album i couldn't find physically, and then go through pages and pages of google results, many of which would take me to blogs of forums full of garbage where i'd have to dig another 20 or 30 pages through posts to find the thing i wanted, and hopefully the dl would still be available. so in essence, i was doing the same thing as a physical digger would be doing, just in a digital form.
and i definitely agree that while coming up on new and random shit is cool and an integral part of the history of sampling and how a lot of dope tracks get made, that doesn't mean that you need to be going and buying random obscure shit just because it's some kind of unbreakable rule or somethin like that. i prefer that a producer know the material he's using and have some kind of emotional connection to it, ie. the sound is good because it triggers a certain emotion in him and thats why he wants to sample it. i get kinda annoyed by cats who just dl a bunch of random shit and then choose whatever is pleasing to the ear without even having some kind of bond with it... feels inauthentic to me i guess, but then again i'm overgeneralizing because not everyone is like that.
I look at e-digging as the newest face in the hiphop game. DO IT. If you're making music and not noise who cares what your sample material is? Check my blog if you e-dig too
in my experience store owners don't sell you crap because most of their business is repeat business. if they want to stay in business they keep their customers coming back. I have never had a store owner sell me crappy records. Maybe a record that didn't fit what I had in mind completely but they have always been quality.I'm obviously not a master of sound quality but the technical practice/ creative inspiration you get from e-digging is pretty ill, thats why I rep it so hard. I'm not saying its the only way to go, its hella fun, quick, and easy, and all the material in the world is there in some shape, form, or fashion. As far as store owners go, most can be pretty helpful but on the other side of that coin they are also trying to make $$ so they will sell you s$HT for gold. Reading wikipedias can send you on musical quests collectors havnt even been on, which further adds to the e-dig phenomenon. I also go to Samash and use my 404 on the MOTIF there sometimes
Man, you definitely got your fanatics on both sides of the conversation and truthfully I personally know nothing about crate diggin in real life but I'll give yall my perspective. I DO have turntables and quite a few records but I've never been able to utilize samples from real records in my life due to my lack of budget and equipment. Although I have nothing against diggin in real life I prefer E-diggin cus the sheer amount of records I can go through and not having to worry about breaking my non-existent bank lol. Also, I hear alot of talk about sound quality and what not but I chalk it up to the fact that records and mp3's/Wavs/Aiffs/ETC have different sounds. A track that sampled a record isn't necessarily superior to one that sampled a sound file, its jus a different vibe. I personally like to sample sound files I found on the internet due to the fact that their qualities are usually worse than a records and there's alot more flexibility when sampling, especially if your lookin for specific covers, dialogue, video game music and other things that are generally hard if not impossible to find on vinyl
Vinyl = time consumption e-digging = instant thats enough for me atm, still not arguing sound quality
in my experience store owners don't sell you crap because most of their business is repeat business. if they want to stay in business they keep their customers coming back. I have never had a store owner sell me crappy records. Maybe a record that didn't fit what I had in mind completely but they have always been quality.
Thats a cool way of looking at it but technically mp3s are just inferior. The concept of a mp3 is removing frequencies to make the sound smaller and reducing the amount of hard drive space used. It was useful in 1999 when computers came with 20 gig hard drives standard. But now we have programs on computers that are 20 gigs. Some where along the lines people decided that it was an ideal for some reason. But a lot of that stuff can be found on vinyl anyway. i had a record way back when called video game breaks. Had all kinds of good stuff on it and its far from rare. I have rarely found anything online that I have never seen on vinyl before but I have seen lots of stuff on vinyl that I have never seen online especially when you move away from sampling rock and soul.
Actually, technically speaking MP3 is a much more accurate reproduction of a sound recording than vinyl. Vinyl is about one of the worst, except that it adds a 'warm' sound that people tend to like. But as far as frequency response, frequency range, dynamic range, soundstage, there is no comparison - Vinyl doesn't sound as real as an MP3.
Think of it this way. How do the old vinyl records end up on youtube? Somebody ripped them off vinyl with a turntable then uploaded it to youtube or blogs or whatever.
The 'sound' argument for real digging is pointless, unless you spend the money on some really high quality converters (mytek, prism, apogee, lynx, etc)
And I realize that mp3 is sort of making it worse 'twice' but honestly boom-bap beats sound unrealistic and lo-fi 99% of the time, so why even bother?
Can you name any of these sites you speak of, if you wouldn't mind?i just pick up stuff that is on the sites that have records
Can you name any of these sites you speak of, if you wouldn't mind?
I follow you, I gather you meant to put another e on the end of Gle, GLEE IS THE BEST SHOW EVAAARR!!!!Don't do it yo! Promoting piracy is what gets sites shut down. @ Larks two words: Goo Gle.
I follow you, I gather you meant to put another e on the end of Gle, GLEE IS THE BEST SHOW EVAAARR!!!!
hahhahaahhahWish I could help you out with those sites but I don't really use em. Try PM'ing dudes tho they can link you up I am sure. Not sure we are on the same tip regarding Glee but to each their own brotha