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    When Im having a mixing session in my studio, And I get to my artist vocals in the verse, I can berly hear him in the song.

    But the problem is that while he is recording he is loud and rapping right into the mic. I pull the sensitivity up, but dun wanna do that too much because of it being toooo loud and picking up every little sound.

    Ive tried putting an compressor on it, I got the waves bundle so I would use the V-comp and I will get sum nice warm vocals, but he is still to low.. could it be that im not turning the vocals up on the vocal track?? or do I need to put a lil more compression and turn the volume up from there??....

    Help....lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by thitz214 View Post
    When Im having a mixing session in my studio, And I get to my artist vocals in the verse, I can berly hear him in the song.

    But the problem is that while he is recording he is loud and rapping right into the mic. I pull the sensitivity up, but dun wanna do that too much because of it being toooo loud and picking up every little sound.

    Ive tried putting an compressor on it, I got the waves bundle so I would use the V-comp and I will get sum nice warm vocals, but he is still to low.. could it be that im not turning the vocals up on the vocal track?? or do I need to put a lil more compression and turn the volume up from there??....

    Help....lol..
    Can you just turn the volume of the vocals up, in the mix?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thitz214 View Post
    When Im having a mixing session in my studio, And I get to my artist vocals in the verse, I can berly hear him in the song.
    If you can barely hear him in the song, turn his level up or turn the level of everything else down... or some combination of the two...



    Quote Originally Posted by thitz214 View Post
    But the problem is that while he is recording he is loud and rapping right into the mic. I pull the sensitivity up, but dun wanna do that too much because of it being toooo loud and picking up every little sound.
    That is not the way it works...

    If you turn the sensitivity up (by "pull the sensitivity up", I am guessing you mean you are increasing the input gain) you are just sending the same exact signal picked up through the mic as you would if it was lower...

    So:

    If you record low and turn the level up later, you are just raising the level of the same sounds as would be present if you had recorded at a higher level...

    But:

    If you record lower and turn it up after the fact, you will also be bringing up the underlying noise present in your signal... (search: "noise floor")




    anyway...


    "turning it up" will not cause you to "pick up every little sound"... all the same sounds are being picked up by the mic regardless of your gain setting...




    Quote Originally Posted by thitz214 View Post
    Ive tried putting an compressor on it, I got the waves bundle so I would use the V-comp and I will get sum nice warm vocals, but he is still to low.. could it be that im not turning the vocals up on the vocal track?? or do I need to put a lil more compression and turn the volume up from there??....

    Help....lol..
    using compression will only make those "every little sounds" you were trying to avoid become LOUDER.


    (and compressors make your overall signal lower, but they make the lows and highs closer to eachother in level... you would have to increase the "make up gain" to make up for the lost gain that a compressor causes
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeissSound View Post
    Can you just turn the volume of the vocals up, in the mix?
    Ive tried, Im thinking it may be because I had the comp plugin volume down all the way while I was mixing and forgot to turn it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvyce View Post
    If you can barely hear him in the song, turn his level up or turn the level of everything else down... or some combination of the two...





    That is not the way it works...

    If you turn the sensitivity up (by "pull the sensitivity up", I am guessing you mean you are increasing the input gain) you are just sending the same exact signal picked up through the mic as you would if it was lower...

    So:

    If you record low and turn the level up later, you are just raising the level of the same sounds as would be present if you had recorded at a higher level...

    But:

    If you record lower and turn it up after the fact, you will also be bringing up the underlying noise present in your signal... (search: "noise floor")




    anyway...


    "turning it up" will not cause you to "pick up every little sound"... all the same sounds are being picked up by the mic regardless of your gain setting...






    using compression will only make those "every little sounds" you were trying to avoid become LOUDER.


    (and compressors make your overall signal lower, but they make the lows and highs closer to eachother in level... you would have to increase the "make up gain" to make up for the lost gain that a compressor causes
    Gotcha!!!... So in order to increase that make up gain, what would you use in order to create that make up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thitz214 View Post
    Gotcha!!!... So in order to increase that make up gain, what would you use in order to create that make up?
    You would use the "make up gain" knob or slider on the compressor.


    ...but just turn your vocal level up to start with... you shouldn't really begin to rely on a compressor until you actually understand how it works.
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    Ight, yea im still learnin about compressors,

    Thanks for the info guyz I really appreciate it!!

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