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Georgia_Boi

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Please help me. I was working on a mix and I decided to check my mix in mono. I noticed that my backing vocals are disappearing. How do I fix this problem. I currently have no effects on them as of now and re-recording is not an option.
 
Are you "doubling" vocals by copying one track and moving it slightly? If you are, don't.

If you're not doing any processing or editing whatsoever and they are cancelling out, then something is wrong as it's unlikely that anything cancels out for no reason, specially with completely different takes. You can invert the phase on one of the tracks and see if that helps.
 
sleepy said:
Are you "doubling" vocals by copying one track and moving it slightly? If you are, don't.

If you're not doing any processing or editing whatsoever and they are cancelling out, then something is wrong as it's unlikely that anything cancels out for no reason, specially with completely different takes. You can invert the phase on one of the tracks and see if that helps.
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I wasn't doubling them. And thanks. I will try to invert them to see what kind of results I get.
 
I also think even if you don't invert them, but just add a phaser effect to your project and off it even in the slightest you'll be good

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It's not just that, it's also the DAW pan laws coming into play. If your backups are panned out and leveled, they'll all be -2.5 to -4.5db too quiet in mono (depending on pan laws).
 
If they are 'disappearing' then you have complete out of phase vocals for some reason, which is odd if you recorded with 1 mic and are not doubling up separate takes / duplicating tracks. Supply more info... like pan positions and how many voices and any processing on them.

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SafeandSound said:
If they are 'disappearing' then you have complete out of phase vocals for some reason, which is odd if you recorded with 1 mic and are not doubling up separate takes / duplicating tracks. Supply more info... like pan positions and how many voices and any processing on them.

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Well I only have one voice. One track panned 30% to the left and another track panned 30% to the right. These are raw vocals and does not have any effects on them. All effects have been bypassed and I'm still having this problem.
 
Sleepy beat me to it....... that was my question also after reading. Are you sure you don't have to vocal takes going in this mix?
 
and that is the problem - the same content panned left and right equally will result in cancellation when summed to mono - this is why you don't do it....

record another set of the backing vocals and use that as the left or right track - too easy by half
 
Wait, not that at all. The same source panned left and right equally will play from the center. They won't cancel unless one is polarity inverted.
 
duplicating one vocal and panning it doesnt do anything. you need to record it twice and pan the 2 takes left and right.
 
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