chilla2
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i wish that FP was as true as this statementdeRaNged 4 Phuk'dup said:Knowing too much makes you look like an idiot.
i wish that FP was as true as this statementdeRaNged 4 Phuk'dup said:Knowing too much makes you look like an idiot.
Nobody said they were, re-read.respect_mbs said:I dont see how layering and adjusting asdr's is overprocessing but i thought all that compression/eq is considered post-production.
I think most people think it's that hard simply because they don't have good monitors. Good monitors = no surprises, then you start realizing a lil pitch adjust or raising a vol. knob is all most drums will ever need.RewindMinez2x said:Before I Started Making Beats, I Used To Hear Mufukkas Cry Over How To Get Good Kicks...how Do I Get Better Kicks...
It Aint Really That Hard If You Know What A Effin' Bass Drum Sounds Like!! **** I Hear Old Recordings All The Time With Some Of The Worst Sounding Recorded Instruments...but They Are Legendary Because It's About The Overall Music, Not How Precise Every Little Thing Is!!!
Relax!
How about this, for all of you (and there were many) that said to use GOOD samples to begin with.... where are we suppsoed to get these good samples? Do these samples come from from Motif's and Fantom's? Do these samples come from sample websites? Do these samples come from libraries that come with samplers? I bought Battery 3 because it got good reviews for drums but I still am not happy with them no matter what I do.... and trust me, I've tried a lot of techniques..
I also saw that people mentioned good monitoring... What kind of monitors do you use for sub bass? Would you reccommend a subwoofer from one of the many pro audio names? Do you use club speakers? Do you use just near field monitors? How bout some more info on that? Let's expound on these suggestions...
"Good Drums" are subjective to the music you make. You should be able to find a retail set created by professionals that won't need much processing, but you have to look into what sound fits what you're trying to do.
The reason i don't recommend slurping drums from songs or "DR. Dre Kits" from eBay, is because they're ultimately the same sound you can get stock off an SP1200, MPC, Triton, Battery, ect. repackaged. The original source will most likely provide you a clean less compromised version of the exact same sound.
In all honesty, if you own the soundbank from Battery 3 and can't find any good drums in it, you most likely need monitoring to give perspective to the sounds you have.
Monitoring is essential in production. When dealing with hip hop and wanting to make drums :"knock" you're going to need to hear frequencies the "knock" appears on. If you're using small monitors the woofer most likely isn't wide enough to process low frequencies so you're hearing "pops" for really good drums while anything distinctive in your monitoring would most likely lack bass when played in anything else.
You want a freq range of at least 40hz-20khz but the wider the better. I'd invest into any audio outputs that have that range(bookshelves, PA Speakers, computer gaming speakers, ect.) before I invested in something that said "monitors" on the box that fell outside that range.
I've read every comment in this post because I am having the same concerns about making good drums. Personally, I don't get any enjoyment out of jacking drums straight off Dre or Em's CD's... I like to create when it comes to making music. Not to say you're lame if you do that, it's just my opinion. Now I also know that all samples had to come from somewhere so you might say that unless you record it yourself, you're jacking sounds anyway. Well... it's a little different in my book but whatever.
How about this, for all of you (and there were many) that said to use GOOD samples to begin with.... where are we suppsoed to get these good samples? Do these samples come from from Motif's and Fantom's? Do these samples come from sample websites? Do these samples come from libraries that come with samplers? I bought Battery 3 because it got good reviews for drums but I still am not happy with them no matter what I do.... and trust me, I've tried a lot of techniques..
I also saw that people mentioned good monitoring... What kind of monitors do you use for sub bass? Would you reccommend a subwoofer from one of the many pro audio names? Do you use club speakers? Do you use just near field monitors? How bout some more info on that? Let's expound on these suggestions...
Battery 3 comes with dope sounds...But IMO they are not your bread and butter type sounds for hip hop...There are some great percussion sounds and of course some nice kicks....But the stock library is not suited for head knocking hip hop...But you can find the best kicks in the weirdest places...Go through all the producers kits, everything u got...There are some jewels in there....
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