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    I decided to make a list of things to stay away from when your getting started as a producer. Take a few minutes out of your life to check out this list. It'll save you a few hundred hours and dollars that you'll never get back.

    1.) FL Studio Vs. Reason Beefs:

    Luckily this is starting to die out. Don't get caught up in this vs. that, just find what works for you and stick with it. No program or tool will make you sound better than the amount of time you dedicate to learning it.

    2.) How To Sell Beats Courses:

    Yes, they've been out there for a while. Buy this ebook and learn how to make $100,000 in a year! These kinds of ebooks were popular in the internet marketing community a few years ago, but since then they've all but died out because people started giving better information online for free and finding other ways to make money by doing so.

    The online production community has just recently began the same shift, which will leave these courses in the dust. Just like what happened in the internet marketing community. I've purchased most of these "how to sell beats" courses, and regret it. Save yourself the money and time, much better free information is starting to surface all over the internet.


    3.) Chasing placements:


    There's been a lot of this lately. In fact, there are entire websites dedicated to announcing when a new famous artist is looking for beats. What people don't understand is that you don't have the same chance as everyone else. There are people submitting to the same twitter account and email addresses that have actually built large names for themselves.

    Artists and A&R's don't announce these kinds of things to discover brand new producers, they do it to find producers that have made huge names for themselves and already have an established brand. You will waste a lot of time hoping for one of these things to pan out, you could send your beats to hundreds of these artists and A&R's and never even get a response even if you did have a some-what large following.

    4.) Listening To Negativity

    There are a lot of negative people in any industry, but none more so than the music business it seems. A lot of people have been burned by this industry and don't mind sharing it with everyone. Keep a positive outlook, expect nothing, be prepared for everything, and you should be fine! Remember, this is your PASSION, whether you make a career of it or not, it will always be there waiting for you. Please have some fun with it for f**k sakes.

    5.) What else am I missing?

    Let's help the newer producers stay away from time wasters, what else am I missing from this list?
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    the mac v pc debate, both work just fine as long as you have the right sounds and plugins. each platform have their own problems so dont let the fanboys try & convert you.

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    One thing new producers should stay away from is cocaine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayzer View Post
    the mac v pc debate, both work just fine as long as you have the right sounds and plugins. each platform have their own problems so dont let the fanboys try & convert you.
    True that, everyone's right according to them.

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    This is a little sub-topic for your first point:

    Getting more wrapped up in what equipment is optimal instead of making/refining their beats. Shiny new toys and knobs are nice and all, but never lose sight of the fact that it's the final product that matters. You see new producers dropping cash like mad on a bunch of keyboards and fancy VSTs believing it'll make them instantly better when their creativity and foundation aren't even in place yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MicoMurci View Post
    This is a little sub-topic for your first point:

    Getting more wrapped up in what equipment is optimal instead of making/refining their beats. Shiny new toys and knobs are nice and all, but never lose sight of the fact that it's the final product that matters. You see new producers dropping cash like mad on a bunch of keyboards and fancy VSTs believing it'll make them instantly better when their creativity and foundation aren't even in place yet.
    This is an excellent point! You'll be amazed with how much creative potential limiting yourself will bring you. This is an area that I've been slipping on, I'm going to go downsize a little right now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by seveneleven247 View Post
    I decided to make a list of things to stay away from when your getting started as a producer. Take a few minutes out of your life to check out this list. It'll save you a few hundred hours and dollars that you'll never get back.

    1.) FL Studio Vs. Reason Beefs:

    Luckily this is starting to die out. Don't get caught up in this vs. that, just find what works for you and stick with it. No program or tool will make you sound better than the amount of time you dedicate to learning it.

    2.) How To Sell Beats Courses:

    Yes, they've been out there for a while. Buy this ebook and learn how to make $100,000 in a year! These kinds of ebooks were popular in the internet marketing community a few years ago, but since then they've all but died out because people started giving better information online for free and finding other ways to make money by doing so.

    The online production community has just recently began the same shift, which will leave these courses in the dust. Just like what happened in the internet marketing community. I've purchased most of these "how to sell beats" courses, and regret it. Save yourself the money and time, much better free information is starting to surface all over the internet.


    3.) Chasing placements:


    There's been a lot of this lately. In fact, there are entire websites dedicated to announcing when a new famous artist is looking for beats. What people don't understand is that you don't have the same chance as everyone else. There are people submitting to the same twitter account and email addresses that have actually built large names for themselves.

    Artists and A&R's don't announce these kinds of things to discover brand new producers, they do it to find producers that have made huge names for themselves and already have an established brand. You will waste a lot of time hoping for one of these things to pan out, you could send your beats to hundreds of these artists and A&R's and never even get a response even if you did have a some-what large following.

    4.) Listening To Negativity

    There are a lot of negative people in any industry, but none more so than the music business it seems. A lot of people have been burned by this industry and don't mind sharing it with everyone. Keep a positive outlook, expect nothing, be prepared for everything, and you should be fine! Remember, this is your PASSION, whether you make a career of it or not, it will always be there waiting for you. Please have some fun with it for f**k sakes.

    5.) What else am I missing?

    Let's help the newer producers stay away from time wasters, what else am I missing from this list?
    I think you have some good points but there are some that should be made as well.

    1) The vs thing can be good if you want to know what works best for you but rather than asking others just test stuff out if what you are using doesn't fit for you. Some DAWs have strengths others do not but generally when starting out its a good idea to only use 1 DAW until you know what is missing from your current workflow.

    2) How to sell beat courses are a waste of money most of the time. Instead of trying to learn how to sell beats spend time learning about how to sell products in general that stuff is free online.

    3) Yes stop chasing placements focus on being good first. Once you are good and I mean others are telling you that you are good and paying for your music not just you and your close friends/family saying it then it may be a good idea to start worrying about placements and networking but until then I wouldn't bother either.

    4) Haters are gonna hate and everyone has something to say about everything on the net. Follow your gut

    5) Avoid GAS. GAS is a mother****er
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xabiton View Post
    I think you have some good points but there are some that should be made as well.

    1) The vs thing can be good if you want to know what works best for you but rather than asking others just test stuff out if what you are using doesn't fit for you. Some DAWs have strengths others do not but generally when starting out its a good idea to only use 1 DAW until you know what is missing from your current workflow.

    2) How to sell beat courses are a waste of money most of the time. Instead of trying to learn how to sell beats spend time learning about how to sell products in general that stuff is free online.

    3) Yes stop chasing placements focus on being good first. Once you are good and I mean others are telling you that you are good and paying for your music not just you and your close friends/family saying it then it may be a good idea to start worrying about placements and networking but until then I wouldn't bother either.

    4) Haters are gonna hate and everyone has something to say about everything on the net. Follow your gut

    5) Avoid GAS. GAS is a mother****er
    Thanks for the input it's greatly appreciated!


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    Well, I wouldn't totally agree with you here. I believe that beginners will find fl studio better and easier to use ESPECIALLY, but not just because of its SEQUENCING functions. With FL studio, you don't NEED a midi keyboard (but if you want you can still use it) to put in notes. You can click them in! Also, working with sampleson fl studio is as easy as drag, drop and step sequence!
    I still agree with choosing a program that works for you, though. You sound as good as you practice!

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    Well, I wouldn't totally agree with you here. I believe that beginners will find fl studio better and easier to use ESPECIALLY, but not just because of its SEQUENCING functions. With FL studio, you don't NEED a midi keyboard (but if you want you can still use it) to put in notes. You can click them in! Also, working with sampleson fl studio is as easy as drag, drop and step sequence!
    I still agree with choosing a program that works for you, though. You sound as good as you practice!

    Check out my
    blog at http://ckmusicprod.tumblr.com

    ---------- Post added at 08:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:30 AM ----------

    Well, I wouldn't totally agree with you here. I believe that beginners will find fl studio better and easier to use ESPECIALLY, but not just because of its SEQUENCING functions. With FL studio, you don't NEED a midi keyboard (but if you want you can still use it) to put in notes. You can click them in! Also, working with sampleson fl studio is as easy as drag, drop and step sequence!
    I still agree with choosing a program that works for you, though. You sound as good as you practice!

    Check out my
    blog at http://ckmusicprod.tumblr.com

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